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post #916 of 1406
1/17/13 at 6:07pm
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Originally Posted by RedDevil10 View Post

+1.  It just about blew my ex-girlfriend's mind when I explained that my classic black tie, including not matching anything about my black tie to her dress, was a good thing, i.e., that I was the frame to her artwork.

great metaphor!
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post #917 of 1406
1/17/13 at 7:08pm
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Originally Posted by sugarbutch View Post

The fundamental problem is that black tie is no longer part of mainstream dressing. It's now a costume one wears for one-off events, disconnected from the rest of the typical man's wardrobe. If he doesn't wear tailored clothing on a regular basis, how can he be expected to wear black tie correctly? These guys recognize that they need help, but they turn to the wrong advisors. I suspect that if some gregarious megastar were to develop an interest in bespoke and do a bit of evangelizing, the results would be much better.

This is true, but I know plenty of people who wear suits every day and can't wear those correctly either, so I don't think it's just a frequency-of-use thing.
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post #918 of 1406
1/17/13 at 7:39pm

Are there any unique rules which apply to a white evening jacket? 

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post #919 of 1406
1/17/13 at 7:49pm
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Originally Posted by bigtimebuck4 View Post

Are there any unique rules which apply to a white evening jacket? 

1. Don't get bleach white, get ivory or cream.

2. Technically they should only be worn in tropical climates, but at least they should be restricted to warm weather.
- 2a. Ergo, vests/waistcoats are not appropriate, only cummerbunds.

3. White DJs are considered less formal than black, which is why the shawl lapel is common.
- 3a. Ergo, turn down collars only, no wing collars.
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post #920 of 1406
1/17/13 at 7:59pm
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What is he holding in his arm? An overcoat? It seems to have twin satin stripes.

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post #921 of 1406
1/17/13 at 11:38pm

It seems to me that he is sitting and that's his leg actually.

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post #922 of 1406
1/18/13 at 12:20am

That would make sense, but that's an awfully loose leg—which was en vogue at the time. But the double stripes is interesting.

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post #923 of 1406
1/18/13 at 12:50am
I think the fact that men's magazines have had quite a few sections devoted to Black Tie the last couple of years combijed with the spate of Bond movies recently is starting to make it more acceptable. Dinner jackets are ever increasingly to be found on billboards and bus stop advert, which is leading more men to enquiring about them and even wearing them. Perhaps also the latest Bond incarnation is lending some toughness and roughness to the tuxedo, diminishing the erroneous perception that they are strictly for poncy, feminine dandies?
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post #924 of 1406
1/18/13 at 12:33pm
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Originally Posted by Van Veen View Post


2. Technically they should only be worn in tropical climates, but at least they should be restricted to warm weather.
- 2a. Ergo, vests/waistcoats are not appropriate, only cummerbunds.

Dr. Jones might disagree with you...


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post #925 of 1406
1/18/13 at 4:18pm
Back in the 30s, when the film took place, I feel as though men were just so much more accustomed to three-piece suits in general and therefore vests would always make an appearance.
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post #926 of 1406
1/18/13 at 5:43pm
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Originally Posted by MrDaniels View Post


Dr. Jones might disagree with you...


 

If it's on the silver screen, it must be true. =:-/

 

Hollywood would never mislead anyone or co-market someone's merchandise or ideas. right?

 

One day maybe more than a handful will realize that entertainment is a poor source of truth. Most especially entertainment by forms of art, which by definition is a political statement or expression of the world view of the artist who is seeking for the artistic expression of their statement, the approval of an audience, even if it is an audience of one.

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post #927 of 1406
1/18/13 at 7:30pm

Thank you for your responses. My client is getting the white dinner jacket for a summer wedding. He also wants a "fun" jacket to wear after the ceremony when he is dancing at the wedding. I think it is a cool idea, but what the f**k is he looking for? anyone have an idea that wouldn't look completely ridiculous? thanks...

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post #928 of 1406
1/18/13 at 7:44pm
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Originally Posted by bigtimebuck4 View Post

Thank you for your responses. My client is getting the white dinner jacket for a summer wedding. He also wants a "fun" jacket to wear after the ceremony when he is dancing at the wedding. I think it is a cool idea, but what the f**k is he looking for? anyone have an idea that wouldn't look completely ridiculous? thanks...

 

Ugh, like...this kind of...fun?

 

 

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post #929 of 1406
1/18/13 at 8:01pm
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Originally Posted by MrDaniels View Post

Dr. Jones might disagree with you...
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Yes, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, that famous 1980s film revered for its unparalleled historically accurate depiction of the 1930s.
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post #930 of 1406
1/18/13 at 8:07pm
I would rather trust these:

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