The State of Black Tie: Your Observations

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1/14/13 at 7:51pm

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Christian Dior.

You mean Kevin Dior, right?

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1/14/13 at 8:08pm

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Personally I would agree with this, but I don't know how easy it would be to actually explain this to a bride-to-be. In addition, I think it would be particularly difficult if each groomsman is procuring his own tux. However, like I said, it would certainly be doable if they were given guidelines such as "tux must be single breasted" in which case the groom could go DB and be set apart in that way.

I don't think most women would notice single breasted vs. DB. My vote (and plan) is for the flower thing. White carnation for the groom (though even this might be hard to swing... "eww.. carnations are cheap"), appropriately colored flowers for the attendants. This should be easier to sell... "I'll wear a white flower to match you, and the others will wear flowers to match the bridesmaids." Women love to match things.

Or show her this photo of the Downton Abbey wedding... chicks dig that show.

OH NOEZ WHICH ONEZ DUH GROOM???

Smashing looking outfits!

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1/14/13 at 8:16pm

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Originally Posted by sugarbutch

Of those posted, only these two. Cooper's tie is at the narrower end of acceptable for me.

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Thanks for this post showing two reasonably faithful efforts at the correct black tie look. To me, however, the tie in the top pic looks too large; the one in the bottom pic, too small. Anyone have a picture of a "just right" bow tie from this event?

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1/14/13 at 8:23pm

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Here is Esquire's take on the men at The Golden Globes last night....

http://www.esquire.com/best-dressed-golden-globes-2013#slide-1

Here is a preview of some of the better ones:

(Esquire praised Hamm, I think the lapels are a tidge too narrow..)

And of some of the disasters:

Thanks to MrDaniels for this post. Agreed that the top three are among the least objectionable male ensembles at this event. It has probably already been noted, however, that DiCaprio is not wearing a waist covering in the top pic.

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1/14/13 at 8:54pm

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Thanks for this post showing two reasonably faithful efforts at the correct black tie look. To me, however, the tie in the top pic looks too large; the one in the bottom pic, too small. Anyone have a picture of a "just right" bow tie from this event?

DiCaprio gets the tie right, but went with two-button notch (S&K style at a Tom Ford price!)

Hugh Jackman's tie has nice proportions. He wins points for peak lapels and single button, but like Leo he has no waist covering, his collar's gapping, and the shirt looks like it has buttons baldy[1].gif

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1/14/13 at 9:01pm

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An outfit as profane as his recent films.

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1/14/13 at 9:23pm

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Thanks for this post showing two reasonably faithful efforts at the correct black tie look. To me, however, the tie in the top pic looks too large; the one in the bottom pic, too small. Anyone have a picture of a "just right" bow tie from this event?

DiCaprio gets the tie right, but went with two-button notch (S&K style at a Tom Ford price!)

Hugh Jackman's tie has nice proportions. He wins points for peak lapels and single button, but like Leo he has no waist covering, his collar's gapping, and the shirt looks like it has buttons baldy[1].gif

I don't think he tied that bow himself...

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1/14/13 at 11:10pm

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Thanks for this post showing two reasonably faithful efforts at the correct black tie look. To me, however, the tie in the top pic looks too large; the one in the bottom pic, too small. Anyone have a picture of a "just right" bow tie from this event?

DiCaprio gets the tie right, but went with two-button notch (S&K style at a Tom Ford price!)

Hugh Jackman's tie has nice proportions. He wins points for peak lapels and single button, but like Leo he has no waist covering, his collar's gapping, and the shirt looks like it has buttons baldy[1].gif

I don't think he tied that bow himself...

I focused on DiCaprio's lack of cummerbund or vest, and didn't notice the tie. Good calls all around!

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1/15/13 at 3:46am

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I focused on DiCaprio's lack of cummerbund or vest, and didn't notice the tie. Good calls all around!

Heh... This reminds me of the GQ Style Guide's Black Tie part, which suggests losing the cummerbund, as showing the waist of the pants is "in" right now. :/

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1/15/13 at 7:06am

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DiCaprio gets the tie right, but went with two-button notch (S&K style at a Tom Ford price!)

Hugh Jackman's tie has nice proportions. He wins points for peak lapels and single button, but like Leo he has no waist covering, his collar's gapping, and the shirt looks like it has buttons baldy[1].gif

I noticed the collar gaping, but you don't know what position he's in for that shot, as it's heavily cropped. I have many a suit that look just right when I'm standing straight, but when I put my arm around someone (such as a relative at a wedding, or my girlfriend at an event) it causes collar gaping, particularly if the jacket is buttoned. You can't see whether that may be the case here.

And as for the shirt, if it has buttons then it's wrong, but it could just be using MOP studs. Too hard to tell IMO.

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1/15/13 at 7:09am

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Thanks for this post showing two reasonably faithful efforts at the correct black tie look. To me, however, the tie in the top pic looks too large; the one in the bottom pic, too small. Anyone have a picture of a "just right" bow tie from this event?

I'd have to see him head on to know whether the tie was actually too large. For a shawl collar, those lapels are relatively wide, but unlike a peak lapel the widest part isn't at the very top. It could be that from other angles it looks OK.

The tux looks to be TF, and if the whole ensemble was purchased together then I have a hard time believing he wouldn't have been given an appropriately sized tie. I think that they also show slightly larger bows with their tuxedos; remember Tom Hanks at last year's Academy Awards (considered best dressed on this board):

http://www.styleforum.net/t/289874/best-dressed-at-oscars

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1/15/13 at 9:23am

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Hugh Jackman's tie has nice proportions. He wins points for peak lapels and single button, but like Leo he has no waist covering, his collar's gapping, and the shirt looks like it has buttons baldy[1].gif

I do not see any problems with buttons, a buttoned silk shirt is one of the standard black tie forms. I know many prefer to wear cotton shirts with studs or fly fronts.

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1/15/13 at 1:41pm

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Originally Posted by sugarbutch

Of those posted, only these two. Cooper's tie is at the narrower end of acceptable for me.

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Originally Posted by MrDaniels

Thanks for this post showing two reasonably faithful efforts at the correct black tie look. To me, however, the tie in the top pic looks too large; the one in the bottom pic, too small. Anyone have a picture of a "just right" bow tie from this event?

The bottom one is just about right - a bow tie should be the same width as that of your eyes to be correct! bigstar[1].gif