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post #856 of 3651
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Originally Posted by Master Squirrel View Post


Personal strangeness:
I've been invited to a "creative white-tie event". Yes you read that right. Luckily they give some parameters:

"Men: We understand you probably don't own all the parts, but try your best to be accurate to white tie. Be creative with the accessories.. Best bet is to keep to black and white (off-white vests acceptable). Black tie and Regency tail coats will be acceptable in a pinch. Please no military uniforms. Keep steampunk items to a bare minimum."

I have a conflict that night otherwise I could report back.

That's strange, given that white tie, unlike black, is the one form of dress which really comes without any options (other than, I suppose, the shape of one's bow and whether the waistcoat uses studs or buttons).

I don't know that I'd necessarily call what they're describing "creative" white tie, as opposed to "do your best" white tie.

Assuming you'll see a lot of guys in tuxedos who have gone out and bought a white tie waistcoat and white bow (at least that's what I'd be doing if this was my only white tie invite ever).
post #857 of 3651
The only guy at the Golden Globes who got it perfect was Ansari. Every ody else had something wrong. Grrr. What is so difficult about getting this simple thing right!?!?
post #858 of 3651
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Originally Posted by Master Squirrel View Post

There were a lot of neck-tie wearers who stated they either didn't know how to tie a bow tie or gave up trying.

Do they not have dates or personal assistants? Ricky at 346 can teach a lady how to tie a bow-tie on herself and her man in about 35 seconds.
post #859 of 3651
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Originally Posted by Master Squirrel View Post


Personal strangeness:
I've been invited to a "creative white-tie event". Yes you read that right. Luckily they give some parameters:

"Men: We understand you probably don't own all the parts, but try your best to be accurate to white tie. Be creative with the accessories.. Best bet is to keep to black and white (off-white vests acceptable). Black tie and Regency tail coats will be acceptable in a pinch. Please no military uniforms. Keep steampunk items to a bare minimum."

I have a conflict that night otherwise I could report back.

Someone whose sartorial knowledge ranges from Regency tailcoats to steampunk should know that there is no such thing as "creative white tie" beyond choice of footwear (and even there you'll get some arguments, though these I would consider pedantic and not reflective of modern reality).

Last year I attended a 100th Anniversary Titanic dinner and a respectable percentage of the gentlemen were in white tie; a few appeared to even be in garments gathered from their own closets rather than from the rental department at Men's Wearhouse.
post #860 of 3651
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Originally Posted by TimelesStyle View Post

I don't know that I'd necessarily call what they're describing "creative" white tie, as opposed to "do your best" white tie.

That was my impression too.
post #861 of 3651
Of those posted, only these two. Cooper's tie is at the narrower end of acceptable for me.
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post #862 of 3651
So many two-button-notched-lapel-straight-tie clusterfucks.
post #863 of 3651
Ansari's looks to be RLBL. Could do without the flapped pockets, but I think it served him well. Greenfeild looked great, excellent choices in regard to his tux.
post #864 of 3651
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Originally Posted by becnal View Post

The only guy at the Golden Globes who got it perfect was Ansari. Every ody else had something wrong. Grrr. What is so difficult about getting this simple thing right!?!?

Why do you think that vs. Greenfield or even Cooper? I'd rank them, in descending order, Greenfield, Cooper, Ansari.
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Originally Posted by sugarbutch View Post

Of those posted, only these two. Cooper's tie is at the narrower end of acceptable for me.

Agreed, but at least Cooper's is a proper black tie tie, which is why I ranked him second.
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Originally Posted by SkinnyGoomba View Post

Ansari's looks to be RLBL. Could do without the flapped pockets, but I think it served him well. Greenfeild looked great, excellent choices in regard to his tux.

Agreed on the pockets, but a minor infraction by comparison.
post #865 of 3651
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Originally Posted by SkinnyGoomba View Post

Ansari's looks to be RLBL. Could do without the flapped pockets, but I think it served him well. Greenfeild looked great, excellent choices in regard to his tux.

Christian Dior.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/race/golden-globes-2013-aziz-ansaris-411827

Note that the picture in the link, which shows Ansari wearing all kinds of fail (Skyfall-esque fit, shirt peeking through, two buttons, super-skinny lapels) is not from Golden Globes.
post #866 of 3651
I just saw Ben Affleck's look...pretty solid I would say.


post #867 of 3651
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Originally Posted by musicmax View Post

Christian Dior.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/race/golden-globes-2013-aziz-ansaris-411827

Note that the picture in the link, which shows Ansari wearing all kinds of fail (Skyfall-esque fit, shirt peeking through, two buttons, super-skinny lapels) is not from Golden Globes.

Was just about to point out that it definitely isn't RLBL since they don't use silk covered buttons, rather plain black shiny ones.
post #868 of 3651
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Originally Posted by MrDaniels View Post

I just saw Ben Affleck's look...pretty solid I would say.


Err, no:

post #869 of 3651
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Originally Posted by musicmax View Post

Christian Dior.

You mean Kevin Dior, right?
post #870 of 3651
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Originally Posted by Van Veen View Post

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Originally Posted by TimelesStyle View Post

Personally I would agree with this, but I don't know how easy it would be to actually explain this to a bride-to-be. In addition, I think it would be particularly difficult if each groomsman is procuring his own tux. However, like I said, it would certainly be doable if they were given guidelines such as "tux must be single breasted" in which case the groom could go DB and be set apart in that way.

I don't think most women would notice single breasted vs. DB. My vote (and plan) is for the flower thing. White carnation for the groom (though even this might be hard to swing... "eww.. carnations are cheap"), appropriately colored flowers for the attendants. This should be easier to sell... "I'll wear a white flower to match you, and the others will wear flowers to match the bridesmaids." Women love to match things.

Or show her this photo of the Downton Abbey wedding... chicks dig that show.



OH NOEZ WHICH ONEZ DUH GROOM???

Smashing looking outfits!
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