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post #4441 of 4727
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Originally Posted by Maximilian S View Post

It's not even about dress codes but the current 'state of black tie' meaning what men in Eurocentric cultures wear as formalwear and how limited it is. Sure it creates a sense of community so does the burka. At least the burka isn't called fashion/style (or the ones who wear them fashionable/stylish) but a uniform of a specific culture. To spend time money and effort to look exactly like every other man at the event. Then the complete double standards for different genders which is the most revolting. 

If you don't like it, don't wear it and don't go to those events. Problem solved. Some of us can enjoy looking good in a tuxedo and not be offended by the fact that the lovely women on our arms can dress in something more colorful. If you're bothered by it, it's on you.
post #4442 of 4727
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Originally Posted by Andy57 View Post

So, Charles attended an event to promote wool while wearing a (presumably) cotton velvet jacket?

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Perhaps the kilt was wool, plus what RoyCru said.
post #4443 of 4727

Arch is right. Besides, the men at these events don't all look the same. The subtle differences are what makes it fun. To me, the quiet individuality displayed by wearing a standing collar in this day and age, or opera pumps instead of oxfords, is far more powerful than showing up in a blatantly unique pattern, or color. 


Edited by Caustic Man - 9/14/16 at 5:28am
post #4444 of 4727
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I did not know that. I wonder what the chances were that HRH's jacket was wool?


It probably was wool velvet.  Velvet also comes in silk velvet and cashmere velvet.  As well as being made in solid colors, velvet is also made in patterns, often plaids or paisleys.  

Cotton velvet is the least likely to be eaten by any of those hard to see things that fly around in closets looking for something to eat.

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Is there such a thing as Vicuna velvet?
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I am having the hardest time finding black leather patent leather shoes to go with my tux.  Any recommendation for anything in the 100-200 range?  I don't know that I have the confidence to ware the pumps.  

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I am having the hardest time finding black leather patent leather shoes to go with my tux.  Any recommendation for anything in the 100-200 range?  I don't know that I have the confidence to ware the pumps.  

https://meermin.es/articulo.php?idArt=4216 should do the trick.

post #4448 of 4727
I totally have the confidence for them, but I can't find a decent pair of pumps!
post #4449 of 4727
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Originally Posted by Roycru View Post

A green velvet jacket can look very nice amongst black dinner jackets.......



I use David Gandy as both fit and gym inspiration very regularly, but it's too bad he's not wearing a cummerbund here. Not just because of principle but because cummerbunds look good compared to vests on V-torsos and better than the "flash of white"
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Originally Posted by Caustic Man View Post
 

 

http://www.ralphlauren.com/product/index.jsp?productId=81749106&cp=54803326.54803556&fd=Black&ab=ln_men_cs_shoes&ff=GenericColor&fv=Black&fg=Color&parentPage=family&selectedColor=Black


https://www.paulstuart.com/men-s/shoes/formal/opera-pump.html

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Originally Posted by the1gofer View Post
 

I am having the hardest time finding black leather patent leather shoes to go with my tux.  Any recommendation for anything in the 100-200 range?  I don't know that I have the confidence to ware the pumps.  


Check your PMs, I was about to post some patent oxfords for sale tonight if you're interested and they're the right size for you.  Also, you should consider Calfskin Wholecut Oxfords which can be used with the tuxedo, but also with a suit.  You may be able to find some Meermins, Allen Edmonds, or Carmina on Ebay for under $200 if you're patient.  That's what I wear with my tux and I happen to be wearing them with a suit today!

 

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Originally Posted by the1gofer View Post
 

I am having the hardest time finding black leather patent leather shoes to go with my tux.  Any recommendation for anything in the 100-200 range?  I don't know that I have the confidence to ware the pumps.  


What size do you wear? I might have a pretty good deal for you.

post #4454 of 4727
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Originally Posted by the1gofer View Post
 

I am having the hardest time finding black leather patent leather shoes to go with my tux.  Any recommendation for anything in the 100-200 range?  I don't know that I have the confidence to ware the pumps.  

 

Allen Edmonds Mayfair (if you don't mind open lacing)

post #4455 of 4727

I believe Brioni have just made a significant contribution to the state of black tie with their new 3-piece continental line.

 

I was been looking for a dinner jacket for some Operas, classy Casinos and basically any excuse to dress up. I was looking at the Tom Ford Spectre white tux jacket but it's too much for only the jacket (for me at least) bearing in mind I don't have any of the other components. I looked in Brioni for a dinner jacket and was shown the continental and a jacket from their previous line. I'm only 27, the traditional jacket hung on me, but the Continental was super sharp but in a Brioni classic way. The way it holds your body up due to the Mohair mixture is great for a strong look.

 

It's peaked lapel, fabric one-button and smoky sheen make it a fantastic evening option, and you're likely to look like the sharpest guy in the room. 

 

Just my opinion for anyone looking for a great black tie set. 

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