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post #4411 of 4600

Thanks for the input on the rental everyone. I plan on renting through theblacktux.com as a good friend's sister works there and another friend had a positive experience at a recent wedding. 

 

For those of you who have attended more events like this how does it work in America (downtown Chicago, October wedding):

 

3pm Catholic service, large 20 person wedding party

5pm Cocktail hour

6pm "Formal" reception (Live band, very nice venue)

 

I understand that black tie is traditionally evening wear - is the expectation to have two outfits for the day? The groom is a cousin of mine, and I can reach out and ask but I need to make sure I don't do it in a way as to say "you don't know how this works"

post #4412 of 4600
It's always best to ask if you are unsure, however I'd guess that most will be wearing tuxes all day. Americans long ago lost the habit of changing several times a day. Maybe your friends are different though.

Enjoy Chicago. If you have a free moment I'd suggest the Field Museum for a generally good time.
post #4413 of 4600

@Smitty2k1 You may be able to buy a cheaper decent quality tux shirt on ebay and onyx studs for cheap.  David Donahue makes a decent pique shirt and they're regularly on ebay brand new selling for under $40.

post #4414 of 4600

Yeah, but then you'd have to factor in alterations, otherwise it would likely fit no better than a rental tux. Although he'd probably be able to find a much better constructed garment, which is nice.

post #4415 of 4600
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Originally Posted by Caustic Man View Post

Black homburg with dinner jacket. Yay or nay?

I own a black homburg that I wear with my dinner jacket. I like the way I look in hats. To many people wearing a tux is costumy so I wouldn't worry about adding a hat.
post #4416 of 4600
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Originally Posted by Sam H View Post

It's a guy who is convinced that black tie is a form of bland subservience when contrasted with women's dress codes for similar events. Basically he does not believe tuxedos are aesthetic and that men should be less afraid to dress in experimental and haute couture fashions the same way women wear designer dresses that push various fashion limits at such events. He's posted about this before. While I understand yet disagree with his point, it's pretty much at odds with the mindset here. He believes inhigh fashion and rule breaking and this subforum as well as this thread are pretty much the complete opposite.

I don't necessarily disagree with him on all counts but I think he overestimates the capabilities of most people. I have no problem with men pushing the limits (some may disagree) but I think it's often done badly and when someone comes to this thread for advice on how to do black tie correctly they are the last person who should be trying out haute couture. It would be like trying to paint like Picasso when you have no technical mastery of classical painting and mistaking Picasso for children's drawings and thinking you've made something great. Furthermore, I am not a huge fan of high fashion looks with some exception, and I personally disagree that the tuxedo is bland or stupid.

Anyway nothing is actually going to come of this discussion except a flame war probably, but I do want to give the benefit of the doubt to the concept he presents even if it's the wrong place for him to try and start an argument about it and in such a standoffish way.

 

Nice analogy. In short it's expecting haute cuisine from those who are learning to boil water :fonz:  

post #4417 of 4600
A wedding invite specifying a black tie dress code can without much of a stretch abandon you in a twist. The words 'dark tie' strikes level of excitement and fear inside me. I fear, if I'm going to get it totally wrong, I will look like a dumb, if I am not properly dressed. I think, a dark tie is dark tie, there's positively no distinction at a wedding. For men a dinner jacket and a black tie with stunning set of cufflinks makes a complete stunning look.Don't wait up to the night to consider your adornments and make-up as a couple of cufflinks can make the difference.

I think one must look for types of cufflinks which can best match a dinner jacket and a black tie. We can easily get many types of cufflinks online and offline stores. You can buy any best suited pair of cufflinks to complete your look. I personally have many types of cufflinks in my collection.

also there are many types of cufflinks will best match with black ties http://cufflinkguru.com/2016/04/14/21-types-of-cufflink-you-need-to-know-before-buying/
post #4418 of 4600
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Originally Posted by Smitty2k1 View Post

I understand that black tie is traditionally evening wear - is the expectation to have two outfits for the day? The groom is a cousin of mine, and I can reach out and ask but I need to make sure I don't do it in a way as to say "you don't know how this works"

Wear a suit for the day and shower and change for the he evening. Always.
post #4419 of 4600

One (or four) more reason(s) to look forward to the next time I wear black tie:

 

post #4420 of 4600

Marvelous, Andy. I take it you have no qualms about not matching your studs to your cuff links?

post #4421 of 4600
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Originally Posted by Caustic Man View Post
 

Marvelous, Andy. I take it you have no qualms about not matching your studs to your cuff links?


Thank you!

 

In general, I don't have any qualms about not matching links and studs. I've been wearing a vintage MoP set for the most part lately and have no links that are even similar, so I just go with whatever seems to work that particular evening. But this set I bought because they match a pair of cufflinks I already have.

post #4422 of 4600

I am contemplating commissioning a new dinner suit to replace the midnight mohair, shawl lapel rig that never fit quite right and has somehow shrunk... :/

 

As I already have a peak lapel dinner suit that fits well, I think I would like to stay with a shawl for this one, but I am open to black and midnight. It would be nice I think to have a midnight suit, but as I said, I am open.

 

What I am looking for from you gents is recommendations for the fabric. Mohair is nice and nothing creases like the stuff. Barathea is an option, but what else is there to consider? Besides types of fabrics, I would be interested in specific recommendations. So, thoughts? Thanks!

post #4423 of 4600

How does everyone feel about lapel flowers on a tux? Real flowers only, or are silk (or other) imitations ok?

post #4424 of 4600
I use the paper mache flowers by Kent Wang. I have found it difficult to find real flowers of that size
post #4425 of 4600
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Originally Posted by Caustic Man View Post

How does everyone feel about lapel flowers on a tux? Real flowers only, or are silk (or other) imitations ok?

I've never worn a lapel flower (nothing against it, but I find the white linen pocket square sufficient) with black tie, but if I were to do so, I'd go with a real flower.
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