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post #4381 of 4595
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Originally Posted by archibaldleach View Post


Midnight blue (preferably with different lapel type than your black dinner jacket) would be a nice pickup for someone who wears black tie as often as you do. If you're on a 1 in 1 out plan, probably replace the seersucker as the cream jacket you already have should cover you for the warmer months. Plus you'd have two pairs of trousers (black and midnight) to wear the cream jacket with. Variety can be nice.


Yes, possibly a shawl collar for the midnight blue, but I'm undecided at the moment. I would not get matching trousers. I just can't see going all midnight blue.

post #4382 of 4595
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Yes, possibly a shawl collar for the midnight blue, but I'm undecided at the moment. I would not get matching trousers. I just can't see going all midnight blue.

We all have our quirks, but I'd definitely suggest matching trousers or just not getting the midnight jacket. Black trousers and a midnight blue jacket would make for a rather odd and awkward pairing. If you want to not match trousers and jacket, the velvet smoking jacket is a much better way to go.
post #4383 of 4595

Black homburg with dinner jacket. Yay or nay?

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Yes, possibly a shawl collar for the midnight blue, but I'm undecided at the moment. I would not get matching trousers. I just can't see going all midnight blue.

I have an all midnight blue shawl collar dinner suit and I dont think I would like it as a dinner jacket. Its so dark that I feel like pairing it with black tousers would look weird.

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Black homburg with dinner jacket. Yay or nay?

While I believe this is the accepted head wear for the dinner suit, I feel like this is bordering on costume these days. That said, if you can pull it off, do it.

post #4386 of 4595
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Black homburg with dinner jacket. Yay or nay?


A homburg doesn't look right on me, but if it works for you, then absolutely.

post #4387 of 4595
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Originally Posted by bdavro23 View Post
 

I have an all midnight blue shawl collar dinner suit and I dont think I would like it as a dinner jacket. Its so dark that I feel like pairing it with black tousers would look weird.


Yeah, I see what you're saying. I'm just not buying it. It's not clear to me why a midnight blue jacket would be treated any differently than any other non-black jacket. I wouldn't wear a burgundy velvet suit, nor would I wear and all-ivory dinner suit, nor an all-black-watch suit, and so on. Not sure why midnight blue would need to be special cased.

post #4388 of 4595
Thing is under low or artificial lighting, which these events are mostly held, the midnight blue looks richer than black. Pairing it with black trousers may end up looking like you have a mismatched black jacket and black trousers.
post #4389 of 4595

Thanks for the feedback. I'll see how it looks.

post #4390 of 4595
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Originally Posted by Andy57 View Post


Yeah, I see what you're saying. I'm just not buying it. It's not clear to me why a midnight blue jacket would be treated any differently than any other non-black jacket. I wouldn't wear a burgundy velvet suit, nor would I wear and all-ivory dinner suit, nor an all-black-watch suit, and so on. Not sure why midnight blue would need to be special cased.

Andy, what you're proposing is the black tie equivalent of wearing black trousers and a midnight blue suit jacket together. Forget the whole debate about black suits for a second here and consider that. There's no good reason you'd mix and match the trousers of a black suit with the jacket of a midnight blue suit. I agree that you wouldn't wear a burgundy velvet suit or ivory suit for black tie, but both of those options are specifically designed to be worn with non-matching trousers and work because of the contrast. A midnight blue dinner jacket is not designed to be worn with non-matching trousers. So if you want to get a jacket to wear with black tuxedo trousers, a midnight blue one is literally the worst possible option you could pick among any of the things discussed. It'll look like your dry cleaner mixed up the trousers with your two dinner jackets and you didn't notice until you got to the event.
post #4391 of 4595
I agree with everyone above, Andy. Don't do it - it will look really strange.

If the fabric is a proper midnight navy (not the true navy or lighter-than-navy fashion-forward abominations) most people will struggle to tell it is not black when worn in appropriate conditions
post #4392 of 4595

Well, first let me say I appreciate the honest feedback. Second, I will step back and rethink the midnight blue concept. I was at SuitSupply SF tonight and they had some midnight blue suits there. I should go back and actually test it out by putting a blue jacket against black trousers and seeing for myself. In the meantime, maybe I'll take the path of least resistance and have a burgundy velvet jacket made. Or a deep green. That would look good, I think.

post #4393 of 4595
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Or a deep green. That would look good, I think.

Deep green gets my vote. It would be smashing.
post #4394 of 4595

With gauntlet cuffs!

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Deep green sounds awesome, and it's also a good bit more dandified than midnight blue on black. One could argue that a midnight blue dinner jacket and trousers is a bit dandified in today's world compared to black. I do think a bit of dandification suits you, Andy.
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