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Originally Posted by othertravel View Post

Would I need to get a formal bow tie that has roughly similar texture/sheen (or lack thereof) or would my regular black bow tie do?

 

It's usually a good idea with black tie to match the bow tie to the lapel facings, so with the rig you linked to above, I'd recommend a grosgrain bow tie.

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Originally Posted by palk View Post
 

 

It's usually a good idea with black tie to match the bow tie to the lapel facings, so with the rig you linked to above, I'd recommend a grosgrain bow tie.

I would do that too as a respectful nod to tradition, however, in my area on the west coast of Canada, the "State of Black Tie" is so relaxed there is really no "need". At local fundraisers where Black Tie is on the invite, more than half the men show up in suits, and some don't even bother with a basic neck tie. So out of 500 people, maybe 2 may notice a mismatched black bow tie fabric with the jacket lapels. (sigh) 

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Originally Posted by Al9146 View Post
 

I would do that too as a respectful nod to tradition, however, in my area on the west coast of Canada, the "State of Black Tie" is so relaxed there is really no "need". At local fundraisers where Black Tie is on the invite, more than half the men show up in suits, and some don't even bother with a basic neck tie. So out of 500 people, maybe 2 may notice a mismatched black bow tie fabric with the jacket lapels. (sigh) 

All the more reason to do it right and set an example.  That line of thinking is likely what led to that current state of dress behavior.

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All the more reason to do it right and set an example.  That line of thinking is likely what led to that current state of dress behavior.

I agree! 
 

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Got to attend an event in London recently with my dad (pictured)...always good fun. I'm wearing my new Charles Tyrwhitt shawl tuxedo, which I couldn't be happier with. One of the best value ones out there IMO! 

 

The general state of black tie? Most people just wore regular suits with a black bow tie, or multiple button notch lapel tuxedos. However, there were a few guys I spotted who really made an effort, and it's amazing how much they stood out in a room of everyone wearing pretty much the same thing. It really does go a long way!

 

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Charles Tyrwhitt Classic Fit Shawl Tuxedo

Tyrwhitt classic fit pique front shirt

Mother of Pearl and silver studs

Suitsupply self tie Bow Tie 

Marks & Spencer Patent Leather shoes 

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Hey guys, picked up a navy dinner jacket with the following fabric:



Thanks for all your help!

What colour trousers do you recommend? Black velvet bow tie?
post #4297 of 4694
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Originally Posted by othertravel View Post

Hey guys, picked up a navy dinner jacket with the following fabric:



Thanks for all your help!

What colour trousers do you recommend? Black velvet bow tie?


Black trousers and accessories. Black silk tie.

post #4298 of 4694
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Originally Posted by othertravel View Post

Hey guys, picked up a navy dinner jacket with the following fabric:





Thanks for all your help!


What colour trousers do you recommend? Black velvet bow tie?


Black trousers and accessories. Black silk tie.

And a black dinner jacket to go with them.
post #4299 of 4694
Thanks for your help guys. I have a tux, so I'm a bit more educated on that front, but have very little knowledge on wearing dinner/evening jackets.

This is the evening jacket I was referring to:



I'm going to wear it with black tux trousers and black bow tie (with suspenders). Do I need a cummerbund or leave as is?
post #4300 of 4694
You need a waist covering. Either cummerbund or waistcoat.
post #4301 of 4694
No you do not need a cummerbund with that.
post #4302 of 4694
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Originally Posted by othertravel View Post

I'm going to wear it with black tux trousers and black bow tie (with suspenders). Do I need a cummerbund or leave as is?

 

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Originally Posted by culverwood View Post

No you do not need a cummerbund with that.

 

Othertravel, Culverwood has it right; if you're not going to meet the minimums of black tie, it's better to eschew all of it rather than looking the prat.  I second culverwood's recommendation to not pair a cummerbund with this outfit as it is clearly not black tie.

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Originally Posted by MeachamLake View Post

Got to attend an event in London recently with my dad (pictured)...always good fun. I'm wearing my new Charles Tyrwhitt shawl tuxedo, which I couldn't be happier with. One of the best value ones out there IMO! 

The general state of black tie? Most people just wore regular suits with a black bow tie, or multiple button notch lapel tuxedos. However, there were a few guys I spotted who really made an effort, and it's amazing how much they stood out in a room of everyone wearing pretty much the same thing. It really does go a long way!

AppleMark

What was the event and what is going on with the fellow on the right's tie?
post #4304 of 4694
His tie is the least of his worries.
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I got invited to my first black tie event ever. I've wanted to get a rig for over 5 years but I never did. This one is next week.

After looking around, I realized this seasons tuxedos all have very high button stances. Hickey Freeman and Paul Stuart have peak lapel offerings I like except for the button stance (1700 and 2300 respectively). Brooks Brothers has a likely Southwick (made in USA) offering on mid year sale for 700 but without many details listed online except it's shawl and has a button stance I like. I nearly settled for that, but my goal was always to get one custom made.

I've been going to Mr Ned recently and at a fitting today I had for a linen jacket I'm getting I asked if he could do a tuxedo by next week. He said yes, but it's gonna cost me. Normally a tuxedo is 1k, but he'd double it for the extreme rush. However that is still 2k. Without time on my side and only a handful of offerings I'd settle for and just lose money on being unhappy with, as well as a 5+ year long desire to have a tuxedo made to my specs and finally seeing it all fall together, I sprung for the 2x rush pricing.

I'm getting peak lapels, non vented, grosgrain trim, one button as well as stylistic choices of soft shouldered American, not super short, plunging lapel, etc.

I ordered barathea silk cummerbund and bow tie from Turnbull and Asser and also some patent shoes from the Tom Ford maker who does the slip on with the grosgrain strap on deep discount from some eBay store. Also I went to CEGO and ordered a Marcella shirt.

I think 2k is the most I've spent on one piece of clothing but I've wanted to get a tuxedo exactly as I want it for years. Gonna have first fitting on Saturday.
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