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post #4216 of 4597
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Originally Posted by Andy57 View Post
 


Well, perhaps so. But StyFo is like that. Don't expect praise for an incomplete rig, especially if you call attention to it. A cummerbund is inexpensive. Its purpose is to cover the waistband of your trousers. A waistcoat will do the same job. If you don't want to wear either, get a double-breasted dinner jacket. It's not difficult to do it correctly.


alright alright, I just scooped up a cummerbund on ebay. no more bickering.  I'm still gonna pop bottles like a waiter though

post #4217 of 4597
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Originally Posted by dwlbu View Post
 


alright alright, I just scooped up a cummerbund on ebay. no more bickering.  I'm still gonna pop bottles like a waiter though


Alright! Wear it with panache and in good health! As for the bottles thing, I can't help you there. But at least you won't look like a waiter.

post #4218 of 4597
I think the matching cummerbund (or waistcoat) elongates the leg line, thereby giving the wearer a slimmer silhouette. I don't get why you guys want to ditch that benefit by wearing a non matching cummerbund or skipping it all together.

Traditional formal dress is already optimized so you look your best. It's a mystery to me why so many people want to reinvent the wheel and think they will do better. There are some people who can pull off a unique look, but most can't.
post #4219 of 4597
The key to pulling off a unique look is creating a compelling, coherent silhouette. Thom Browne, love it or hate it, managed to do that. Most everything else is just a poorly executed imitation. Low rise trousers have been a plague to classic menswear (much more so than TB's aesthetic) for the past decade and a half... guys (and gals) thinking that suit trousers should fit like jeans.

Maybe I hate this so much because I used to think that I needed to look unique and didn't realize how bad I actually looked until later....
post #4220 of 4597
I don't want to look unique. I just want to look good.
post #4221 of 4597
^ Well said.
post #4222 of 4597

So what's the verdict on the POW check cummerbund on the last page? Love it, hate it?

post #4223 of 4597
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So what's the verdict on the POW check cummerbund on the last page? Love it, hate it?


I wouldn't wear it. Personally, I think it's better than no waist covering at all, but, as a general rule, I don't think it looks like something a grown-up would wear.

post #4224 of 4597

Hate it. Reminds me of prom and/or the 80s.

post #4225 of 4597
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I wouldn't wear it. Personally, I think it's better than no waist covering at all, but, as a general rule, I don't think it looks like something a grown-up would wear.

 

 

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Hate it. Reminds me of prom and/or the 80s.

 

I think I prefer it with a waistcoat as well.  This is how I usually wear it.

 

post #4226 of 4597
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I think I prefer it with a waistcoat as well.  This is how I usually wear it.

 

 

You bear a resemblance to Voxsartoria. Related?

post #4227 of 4597
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You bear a resemblance to Voxsartoria. Related?

Bill and I? Gosh no. We just have the same overbearing freckle.
post #4228 of 4597

What's everyones general preference for tuxedo shirt fronts? Plain or pleated? Debating for my wedding rig


Edited by Pb924 - 4/2/16 at 8:38am
post #4229 of 4597
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What's everyones general preference for tuxedo shirt fronts? Plain or pleated? Debating for my wedding rig

I prefer a plain bib rather than pleats.
post #4230 of 4597
Stiff plain (not pique) front with detachable wing collar for more formal occassions, soft fly-front turndown collar for more casual.
No pleats on shirts for me.
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