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All SuitSupply -  tuxedo, shirt, bowtie, pocket square and shoes and  albertthurston suspenders .

 

 

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All SuitSupply -  tuxedo, shirt, bowtie, pocket square and shoes and  albertthurston suspenders .

 

 

 

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Looks really good!

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I also choose to go no-cumberbund, but I'll probably pick one up at some point.
 

 

When you've gone to the amount of trouble you have to assemble a really nice rig, don't spoil it by not using some sort of waist covering. Get a cummerbund or a formal vest and complete the look.

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When you've gone to the amount of trouble you have to assemble a really nice rig, don't spoil it by not using some sort of waist covering. Get a cummerbund or a formal vest and complete the look.

Exactly right.
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Snip//  ...Think twice about wearing anything other than a black cummerbund. Then think again.

 

I just remembered I had a photo laying around from a friend's wedding.  I am not wearing a black cummerbund, but instead a POW checked one.  I think the substitute is fine, and just wanted to show an example.  I also have one that is a grey/white mini hound's tooth and I think that is fine too. The camera angle, and quality of the image is unfortunate, but the picture was snapped candidly in dim lighting.  You get the idea.

 

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Is it acceptable not to wear a cummerbund/waistcoat if the pants have a sufficiently high rise?

Here's a pic - there's no hint of shirt peeking out from under the jacket

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If you're going to not wear a cummerbund, the way to do it is with very high rise trousers to avoid being able to see the shirt underneath the buttoning point. This doesn't quite work if you are going to unbutton the jacket, though. Considering how comparatively rare black tie is these days, I see no reason to not wear a waistcoat or cummerbund to complete the look. I can't imagine one would ever wear a stroller or morning coat without an appropriate waistcoat (morning coat may be more analogous to white tie technically I'll admit), so I see no reason to forego it with evening formalwear. If you must eschew the waistcoat or cummerbund, best done with a DB jacket.
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If you're going to not wear a cummerbund, the way to do it is with very high rise trousers to avoid being able to see the shirt underneath the buttoning point. This doesn't quite work if you are going to unbutton the jacket, though. Considering how comparatively rare black tie is these days, I see no reason to not wear a waistcoat or cummerbund to complete the look. I can't imagine one would ever wear a stroller or morning coat without an appropriate waistcoat (morning coat may be more analogous to white tie technically I'll admit), so I see no reason to forego it with evening formalwear. If you must eschew the waistcoat or cummerbund, best done with a DB jacket.


Exactly right.

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I think Sebastian's DJ looks great. I always wear a waistcoat with a morning coat but never wear a cummerbund. As Sebastian says with properly made black tie they are unnecessary and I dislike the look.
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I think Sebastian's DJ looks great. I always wear a waistcoat with a morning coat but never wear a cummerbund. As Sebastian says with properly made black tie they are unnecessary and I dislike the look.

If the rise of the pants is sufficient and you always have your coat buttoned it can work. I like the look of a cummerbund. It gives a bit more formality to the outfit.
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No cummerbund or waistcoat
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^ I see white shirt below the buttoning point.
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Originally Posted by dwlbu View Post

No cummerbund or waistcoat

 

Then you look like you must be either a waiter or a member of the orchestra. Is that the impression you wish to give?

 

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^ I see white shirt below the buttoning point.

 

Yep. But that must be a thing now. Because no cummerbund. Or waistcoat.

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Then you look like you must be either a waiter or a member of the orchestra. Is that the impression you wish to give?

 

 

Yep. But that must be a thing now. Because no cummerbund. Or waistcoat.


tough crowd here. I kinda felt like a waiter when I was popping bottles all night.

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tough crowd here. I kinda felt like a waiter when I was popping bottles all night.


Well, perhaps so. But StyFo is like that. Don't expect praise for an incomplete rig, especially if you call attention to it. A cummerbund is inexpensive. Its purpose is to cover the waistband of your trousers. A waistcoat will do the same job. If you don't want to wear either, get a double-breasted dinner jacket. It's not difficult to do it correctly.

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