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Originally Posted by Andy57 View Post
 


The thing to remember is that the purpose of the cummerbund or the waistcoat (whichever you choose) is to cover the waistband of your trousers. The purpose of the stripe down the outside seam is to cover that outside seam. So the answer to the question is it necessary is no, it's not necessary, but some sort of ways covering is, formally, necessary. There are three ways to accomplish that: a waistcoat, a cummerbund, or by wearing a double-breasted dinner jacket.

 

Think twice about wearing anything other than a black cummerbund. Then think again.

And then think again. And if you still think its a good idea to wear something besides a black cummerbund or U cut waistcoat, you're wrong...

post #4172 of 4608
My wife and I at the season opener of Madama Butterfly on Friday evening at the Met. I saw about 4-5 others in what looked to be classic black tie (give or take a cummerbund here and there), and probably a dozen or so in total in either classic or some modern interpretation of a tuxedo. Otherwise there was the full gamut from suits, sport coats, trousers and sweaters, some fashion-forward individuals, and one guy in cargo pants and a t-shirt. At least the shirt was black :-/

The state of women's dress was far, far better. Plenty of cocktail dresses, but also a good number in some truly stunning full-length pieces. On average, I find it remarkable that they even want to be seen in public looking as great as they do with men thinking anything with a collar is dressed up.

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Fitting today. Sleeves needed a little work but everything else was great. Should have used my normal tailor. I'm not happy with the length but it will do.
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Originally Posted by RaggedyDandy View Post

The state of women's dress was far, far better. Plenty of cocktail dresses, but also a good number in some truly stunning full-length pieces. On average, I find it remarkable that they even want to be seen in public looking as great as they do with men thinking anything with a collar is dressed up.
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A good-looking couple!

 

I completely agree with your observation, above. I try (I really do!) not to pass judgement, but on many occasions the disparity between the woman's dress and the man's dress is so glaring as to defy understanding. When did an untucked shirt and no jacket become an acceptable mode of dress to accompany a lady dressed up for the evening, for example?

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Fitting today. Sleeves needed a little work but everything else was great. Should have used my normal tailor. I'm not happy with the length but it will do.

Where is the black tie in this?
post #4176 of 4608
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Originally Posted by greger View Post

Where is the black tie in this?

It was just a fitting today. I I'm wearing the shirt and tie I wore to work that day.
post #4177 of 4608
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Originally Posted by Seamless View Post

It was just a fitting today. I I'm wearing the shirt and tie I wore to work that day.

Like the tie. Not sure what to think of the coat. Wonder what it will be like when finished.
post #4178 of 4608
Based on the Oscars this year, it seems that the long tie crowd is aging.
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What a trainwreck this years Oscars was.
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There were a couple of pretty good rigs, like Liev Schriber and Leo DiCaprio. With that said, both of them were let down by not wearing a cummerbund... For Hollywood, this is basically as good as it gets, unfortunately.

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You can't expect 100% black tie guy textbook. Personally, on my own judge's sheet, I will forgive 1 idiosyncrasy (e.g. Chris Rock's lapels) if fit is on point.
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Joe Biden's crowning achievement over the course of his time as vice-president is that black tie rig...

 

Well played Mr. Vice-president...

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Really?! Google just reveals notch lapels and wing collars. Screams rental (although obviously not).
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Did you google "Joe Biden Oscars"?
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Originally Posted by marcodalondra View Post

Did you google "Joe Biden Oscars"?


I don't think it looks great, No shape, low armholes - looks very brooksbrothers.

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