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post #3961 of 4595

Also not a fan of wing collars. I personally think they look terrible, though I am not exactly sure why. Maybe they remind me of something waiter-ish? I dont know. That being said, I applaud any wearing of a reasonably correct rig and obviously my opinion counts for very little.

 

On another subject, I will soon have pictures of my recent wedding with a number of examples of black tie in evidence. Details to follow...

post #3962 of 4595
I have a detachable wing collar with pique front that shirt that I use mostly for white tie but also use sometimes for black tie. I think the wing collar is best for a peak lapel and vest tux.
post #3963 of 4595
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Originally Posted by poorsod View Post

I think the wing collar is best for a peak lapel and vest tux.

In a black tie context, I would go so far as to see a wing collar should only be worn with a peak lapel dinner jacket and waistcoat.
post #3964 of 4595
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Does anyone still wear black tie for cruise "formal" nights? .

 

I was on a Disney cruise with my family two summers ago and wore my dinner suit on both of the designated formal evenings. There may have been one or two other dinner suits, and a smattering of lounge suits. A lesser man may have felt out of place but no matter. Nothing beats the wistful looks you get from the ladies, as they turn their gaze from you in your resplendence to their partner in his ball cap and jeans. My mission in life is to wear formal clothes whenever I can.

post #3965 of 4595

Whilst on the subject of wing collars, here's a picture from my younger brother's Facebook page taken on the Opening Night of his most recent Broadway show.

My younger brother is the one on the right wearing a wing collar with a peak lapel dinner jacket.  (I think that he is wearing his double breasted dinner jacket but for some reason he has unbuttoned it.)

What I noticed was that my brother isn't wearing studs and that the person on the left has found a bizarre way to get by without wearing studs.  His shirt might have strips of velcro or something like that to keep it "buttoned up" (or whatever one calls it on a shirt like that).

post #3966 of 4595
It just has normal buttons behind the "plakat".
post #3967 of 4595
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a bizarre way to get by without wearing studs.  His shirt might have strips of velcro or something like that to keep it "buttoned up"

(or whatever one calls it on a shirt like that).
It is commonly called a fly front shirt. It has a covered placket.
post #3968 of 4595
^ My last shirt was made like that. I wear it about half the time, but I don't think I will get another.
post #3969 of 4595
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^ My last shirt was made like that. I wear it about half the time, but I don't think I will get another.
I'm on my fourth or fifth linen fly front that I wear with single breasted. With DB I wear linen with studs.
post #3970 of 4595
I like using studs. It is one of the few ways to individualize the tux.
post #3971 of 4595
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I like using studs. It is one of the few ways to individualize the tux.
True but a linen fly front shirt is a rare bird in the wild, at least in my expierience. Actually, you don't see a whole lot of linen formal shirts out there in general.
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Originally Posted by dopey View Post

^ My last shirt was made like that. I wear it about half the time, but I don't think I will get another.
I'm on my fourth or fifth linen fly front that I wear with single breasted. With DB I wear linen with studs.


One should think it ought to be the other way round, as the front is more exposed with single breasted!
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One should think it ought to be the other way round, as the front is more exposed with single breasted!
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Is this 'over exposure' something to be avoided? In any event it wasn't a factor in my choice, just personal preference.
post #3974 of 4595
I recently got vintage abalone shell stud and link set from the 1940s. I think the next tux shirt I'll get will have 2 buttons because Manny (from the Missing Link) said that the studs he has from the 20s are often 2 button. I think the vintage buttons are often so much more beautiful than the ones made today.
post #3975 of 4595
I very much appreciate the fly front shirt. Studs are so prominent; I'm not a fan of the way they break up the shirt, nor how they're used in what seems like 95% of evening shirts out there. The fly front, meanwhile, is distinctive by its rarity.
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