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A cream vent against black pants is going to be extremely visible whenever it's the slightest bit open.

Ah, I didn't think of that. Probably best to just get it stitched up then.

J
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My second question is with two of my sets of vintage studs came a thing that has what looks like a stud front on each side connected by a single link. I have no idea what it is for, so the set has three shirt studs and one of these critters.

I tried to get a picture.

Help?

J

 

My best guesses are a waistcoat stud (the other three being lost, I suppose) or a matching cuff link (the other one being lost).  Are they bigger than the shirt studs?  They look small for either of those things, to me, but I suppose  don't have any real-life experience to base that on.

post #2643 of 3406
I have two different sets of studs with one of these each, so I don't think they are orphaned.

They don't look like any waistcoat stud I've ever seen, and a bit small for a cufflink.

Maybe for a single cuff?

J
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Two more questions:

1: What pocket square with the cream jacket and burgundy tie/cummerbund? If I decide to go with black instead of burgundy, what square then?

2: Looking through old illustrations I see pictures of gents in high waisted trousers, cummerbunds, and jackets which look like white tie jackets (double breasted, short, not meant to be closed) without tails. What's up with that?

J
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Originally Posted by J011yroger View Post

Two more questions:

1: What pocket square with the cream jacket and burgundy tie/cummerbund? If I decide to go with black instead of burgundy, what square then?

2: Looking through old illustrations I see pictures of gents in high waisted trousers, cummerbunds, and jackets which look like white tie jackets (double breasted, short, not meant to be closed) without tails. What's up with that?

J

1. you can never go wrong with white

2. they're called mess jackets. I summarize them in my site's History section and describe them in detail in the Vintage section

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Great, I'll check it out!

J
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Hilarious!

What shoes would one wear for an outdoor summer club event? Pumps or oxfords seem more suited to indoor events, slippers too.

J
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Hilarious!

What shoes would one wear for an outdoor summer club event? Pumps or oxfords seem more suited to indoor events, slippers too.

J

I might wear my regular calf cap toe Oxfords. They're more suited to the wear they would get outdoors. If I had plain toe ones, I'd wear those over cap toes. I might also wear my formal loafers, though - they seem to stand up to walking to and from events pretty well.

White or no PS, with burgundy tie. White, none, or maybe burgundy,with black tie/cummerbund.
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I was thinking if I could find a white square with burgundy pindots that would be sharp.

J
post #2651 of 3406
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Originally Posted by J011yroger View Post

I was thinking if I could find a white square with burgundy pindots that would be sharp.

J

For a fairly casual event, I think that could be sharp. Might be matchy with the burgundy tie/cummerbund. But... Would really have to see the whole thing.
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Originally Posted by J011yroger View Post

Hilarious!

What shoes would one wear for an outdoor summer club event? Pumps or oxfords seem more suited to indoor events, slippers too.

J

I'd go for black oxfords with a high shine. Plain toe is ideal if you have them.
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Originally Posted by J011yroger View Post

I was thinking if I could find a white square with burgundy pindots that would be sharp.

J

I'd avoid trying to get too cute with the outfit. Black tie and cummerbund are preferred IMO (gives you a bit of freedom with the square though I'd still avoid pindots which are really a pattern for ties), but if you are going to deviate from the standard black tie and cummerbund, I'd go with a plain white linen square.
post #2653 of 3406
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Originally Posted by archibaldleach View Post

I'd go for black oxfords with a high shine. Plain toe is ideal if you have them.
I'd avoid trying to get too cute with the outfit. Black tie and cummerbund are preferred IMO (gives you a bit of freedom with the square though I'd still avoid pindots which are really a pattern for ties), but if you are going to deviate from the standard black tie and cummerbund, I'd go with a plain white linen square.

I only have captoe Oxfords or opera pumps for black-tie wear.

I'll try on some stuff with the cream DJ and see how I feel.

J
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When would one wear a smoking jacket in 2014?

J
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When would one wear a smoking jacket in 2014?

J

My house, after dinner. A less formal, private, black tie event. Or, as it's 2014, anywhere you please.
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