Originally Posted by culverwood
I wish people would not always refer to blacktieguide.com but use their own experience and opinion. Although the website is a fine piece of research it was only started in 2008 by a good man who had been looking to improve his black tie for an earlier cruise but it seems to have become the indisputable rule-book for many here. I am one who thinks that black tie continuously evolves and trying to fix it in the mid 20th century is wrong and a waste of time.
This argument is usually made by people who want to excuse not wearing waist coverings, or replacing bow ties with long ties, or wearing pastel colored tuxedos. I would argue that classic tuxedos have not "evolved" in one hundred years. Some things that prove their usefulness get added such as turndown collars and off white dinner jackets. A classic tuxedo today could be worn in the 1930's and fit in. That's why its formal, it's classic. Every element works well together. Both Peter Lorre and Sidney Greenstreet could wear it and look equally classy. Black tie is about tradition and tradition is not a dirty word.
The Black Tie Guide is a great resource. That is why it is quoted frequently. The reason it was started is irrelevant to the fact that a lot of work was put into it. I would argue that the BTG is the single most complete resource on black tie. It has a detailed history of the subject. Peter doesn't claim there is one single configuration you must wear. The Guide points out all the variations on items and tells which ones will likely be looked on more favorably if you are going to an old money ball as opposed to the local country club. If there were no customs or accepted standards for black tie there would be no need for a guide. There is no guide for what I wear when I go to McDonalds to eat, but I will continue to refer to the BTG when it comes to dressing to the nines.