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Neither grosgrain nor satin is more appropriate. It's a matter of personal taste. I have grosgrain on my shawl DB.
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I don't know if it's historically traditional or whomever popularised it, but I think, IMHO, that wearing a black bow tie with a wing collar just looks plain dumb and I would never do it. The black band visibly running around the neck looks like a bad combination of "ring-around-the-collar" and wearing ones trousers so low that the underwear's waist band is on display. Plus, it gets even worse when the wearer's bowtie is an adjustable and hence has a shiny metal ring on the band. Just ick. Maybe it's just me, but, um, ick. YMMV. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

Neither grosgrain nor satin is more appropriate. It's a matter of personal taste. I have grosgrain on my shawl DB.

And you wear a satin or grosgrain butterfly bow-tie?
post #1249 of 3595
Checked out the Smiths formals book today. There are a few nice fabrics. But I'm a bit hesitant. The 8/9 oz mohair-wool stuff (SW8802) looks good but I'm a bit apprehensive at making something up in that weight.

Not sure how it'll hold up, or make up!
post #1250 of 3595
Too light?
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Haven't ventured to make up something this light. You think 8/9 oz is okay?
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Originally Posted by becnal View Post

I don't know if it's historically traditional or whomever popularised it, but I think, IMHO, that wearing a black bow tie with a wing collar just looks plain dumb and I would never do it. The black band visibly running around the neck looks like a bad combination of "ring-around-the-collar" and wearing ones trousers so low that the underwear's waist band is on display. Plus, it gets even worse when the wearer's bowtie is an adjustable and hence has a shiny metal ring on the band. Just ick. Maybe it's just me, but, um, ick. YMMV. smile.gif

Well, you forget that if the whole getup fits properly the back of the collar will not be visible above the jacket. I have, however, seen a solution; the tunnel collar. The problem is that one must have a tie which will separate into two pieces in order to thread them through.
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Originally Posted by becnal View Post

I don't know if it's historically traditional or whomever popularised it, but I think, IMHO, that wearing a black bow tie with a wing collar just looks plain dumb and I would never do it. The black band visibly running around the neck looks like a bad combination of "ring-around-the-collar" and wearing ones trousers so low that the underwear's waist band is on display. Plus, it gets even worse when the wearer's bowtie is an adjustable and hence has a shiny metal ring on the band. Just ick. Maybe it's just me, but, um, ick. YMMV. smile.gif

+1. The wing collar also looks pretty dumb with the bow tie untied. Not an issue during the event itself, but if you're at the bar at 3:00AM after a black tie event it will start to become one. Not the main reason I prefer turndown collars but it definitely helps.
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^ That's an, um, interesting vest.
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The guy on the right is boss. His son, WIlliam Skinner, on the left, may be one of the hosts of the event, which would explain the velvet jacket and jolly vest. The father was the head of the organization for some time.
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^ That's an, um, interesting vest.
Would it show when the smoking jacket is closed?
post #1258 of 3595
Dunno. Hard to tell when the jacket's open. frown.gif
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Would it show when the smoking jacket is closed?
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post #1260 of 3595
Only a Sith could even try that. There is definitely some Dark Side action going on there!
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