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post #1216 of 3575
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Yep. All groomsmen wore the same flower.

I'd never wear a flower to a wedding these days unless in the wedding party and instructed. Whether we like it or not, it is a signifier of things and I don't want to break protocol.
post #1217 of 3575
My links don't match my studs either.
post #1218 of 3575
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

Yep. All groomsmen wore the same flower.

I'd never wear a flower to a wedding these days unless in the wedding party and instructed. Whether we like it or not, it is a signifier of things and I don't want to break protocol.

After the ceremony I pluck one from the ceremony arrangements or from the table centerpieces. I am sure that is bad taste, but no one has ever stopped me or complained (to my face).
post #1219 of 3575
Oh, I'd say it depends on the type and size of the flower. Having a tiny cornflower or daisy in your lapel won't make anyone think you're the groom or best man. It's just a festive dash of colour for a special occasion.
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I'd never wear a flower to a wedding these days unless in the wedding party and instructed. Whether we like it or not, it is a signifier of things and I don't want to break protocol.
post #1220 of 3575
Thread Starter 
That really won't fly in the US. The groom, best man, and groomsmen all wear flowers chosen by the bride and groom to designate them as such. Whatever you are wearing might wind up being the same or similar. Also, wearing flowers in your lapel, even to festive events, is highly unusual here. It would be conspicuous--a lot of other guests would assume you are serving some special function.
post #1221 of 3575
Just being well-dressed marks one out as conspicuous most places. smile.gif
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Hmm...just went to an event hosted by my fraternity. The dress code was black tie, although knowing them, I didn't think they knew what they were talking about. But I didn't give a duck and attended in black tie anyway, and as expected, was the only one wearing what could be considered black tie. Not even the guy who set the dress code.

post #1223 of 3575
And hopefully he felt silly about not knowing what he's doing. How did the others dress? Are you still in college?
post #1224 of 3575

Yes, I'm still in college, in the fraternity. The others mostly wore suits. I might have seen a few odd jackets; wasn't paying much attention, although one guy had a tux, but with a not-white shirt, not-black vest (not a waistcoat), and a patterned not-black bowtie.

post #1225 of 3575
Then spread the gospel of proper black tie attire! biggrin.gif
post #1226 of 3575
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Originally Posted by PianistOne111 View Post

Yes, I'm still in college, in the fraternity. The others mostly wore suits. I might have seen a few odd jackets; wasn't paying much attention, although one guy had a tux, but with a not-white shirt, not-black vest (not a waistcoat), and a patterned not-black bowtie.

Berate them for looking like assholes. That usually works with my friends.
post #1227 of 3575
Gentlemen, whats your take on button-up shirts with black-tie? Sometimes or never? How about barrel cuffs?

Currently unsure of sources, but aren't some advocating stiff-fronts only for white-tie?
post #1228 of 3575
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Originally Posted by OTM View Post

Gentlemen, whats your take on button-up shirts with black-tie? Sometimes or never? How about barrel cuffs?

Currently unsure of sources, but aren't some advocating stiff-fronts only for white-tie?

If I understand button-up shirt to mean a standard white dress shirt, I'd say never. Wear a shirt that takes cufflinks and studs. Either the french cuff or link cuff variety. No barrel cuffs. A tuxedo shirt should be different from a plain white dress shirt.

Are you referring to the marcella style front by "stiff-front?" If so, a shirt in that style is perfectly fine to wear with black tie as is a shirt with tasteful pleats.
post #1229 of 3575
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Originally Posted by OTM View Post

Gentlemen, whats your take on button-up shirts with black-tie? Sometimes or never? How about barrel cuffs?

Currently unsure of sources, but aren't some advocating stiff-fronts only for white-tie?

I wear a shirt with a fly front, meaning the buttons are covered. It takes cufflinks, but not studs, and the front is smooth with no pleats and nothing but the fly front placket covering the buttons. I would urge you not wear barrel cuffs - links are really required - and to avoid showing regular buttons (either studs or hidden buttons).
Stiff fronts are not only for white tie, but make black-tie even more formal. And would probably look silly with a DB tux, though I won't swear to it. If you are using a single button peak lapel DJ, stiff front with a detachable wing collar can look great.
post #1230 of 3575
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Originally Posted by RedDevil10 View Post

FWIW, my PRL DB 6x2 from a couple of years ago with grosgrain facing has covered buttons.

My Oxxford DB (6 x 2) does not have covered buttons. Af first, I was a bit put off by that, as my prior dinner jackets all had covered buttons, but I've learned to live with it . . . .
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