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post #1186 of 3383
Wearing black tie right now:

4x1 shawl
Double pleated
Punch caps
Button up, barrel cuff
White cotton square

All in all, pretty mediocre.
post #1187 of 3383
Thanks for sharing, Persephone. I enjoyed the images of white-tie and black tie at the ball.
post #1188 of 3383
How's that working for you?
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Originally Posted by OTM View Post

Wearing black tie right now:

4x1 shawl
Double pleated
Punch caps
Button up, barrel cuff
White cotton square

All in all, pretty mediocre.
post #1189 of 3383
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Originally Posted by becnal View Post

How's that working for you?

Oh, thanks for asking, I am happy I have a somewhat complete rig, but I will most likely go for SB peak next time (or at least something with a higher buttoning point).

Also bought about 15 kilos of fish last night, but that is another story.
post #1190 of 3383
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Originally Posted by OTM View Post

Oh, thanks for asking, I am happy I have a somewhat complete rig, but I will most likely go for SB peak next time (or at least something with a higher buttoning point).

Also bought about 15 kilos of fish last night, but that is another story.

Any chance you own a restaurant?
post #1191 of 3383
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Originally Posted by TimelesStyle View Post

Any chance you own a restaurant?

None at present, but when I do I will frequent it in my new rig!
post #1192 of 3383
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This is exactly why I prefer plain-toe balmorals (in calf, as I don't like patent leather). The cap-toe balmoral is so associated with business wear, but I feel the plain-toe does not suffer from this association, and is also sleeker (which is desirable in evening wear). I also think you can get away with wearing them to work if you absolutely had to, unlike patent leather. Wholecuts might be a viable shoe option as well, though a bit less conservative.

 

Well you would have gotten a kick out of me in my shell bals and my dad in his calf wholecuts biggrin.gif

post #1193 of 3383
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Originally Posted by EriQ009 View Post

Thanks for sharing, Persephone. I enjoyed the images of white-tie and black tie at the ball.

You are more than welcome. It was a very nice experience, and we hope to be back in 2014.
post #1194 of 3383
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None at present, but when I do I will frequent it in my new rig!

Just figured that the combo of buying a bunch of fish and a "working black tie" ensemble may suggest that wink.gif. Or maybe you're in the mob and were putting someone to bed with the fishes?? I can certainly understand not wanting to get anything on your real tux shirt or risk losing a cufflink/stud in the mess biggrin.gif.
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Of course your experience, may be different than mine. So, when and where have you seen a tux, dinner jacket, or formal tailcoat with buttons of horn, metal, or other that were not covered with silk or other fabric, especially one with self faced lapels?

Every RL tux available online (Polo and Black Label) uses uncovered buttons:

http://www.ralphlauren.com/product/index.jsp?productId=13233032&cp=1760781.2531885&ab=ln_men_cs1_formalwear&view=99&parentPage=family

http://www.ralphlauren.com/product/index.jsp?productId=16398946&cp=1760781.2531885&ab=ln_men_cs1_formalwear&view=99&parentPage=family

http://www.ralphlauren.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4488816&cp=1760781.2531885&ab=ln_men_cs1_formalwear&view=99&parentPage=family

I don't remember what the Purple Label tuxedos I've seen in the stores have, but they may have been uncovered buttons as well.

 

I owned a black/grosgrain RLPL tux for a while, but sold it. It did not have self-faced buttons. I also currently have (and wear) a lovely 1934 Hart, Schaffner & Marx black DJ, an Edward Sexton black DJ, and an RLPL white DJ (just the jacket), and none of them have self-faced buttons. This is fine with me, as I don't particularly like them very much.

 

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This is exactly why I prefer plain-toe balmorals (in calf, as I don't like patent leather). The cap-toe balmoral is so associated with business wear, but I feel the plain-toe does not suffer from this association, and is also sleeker (which is desirable in evening wear). I also think you can get away with wearing them to work if you absolutely had to, unlike patent leather. Wholecuts might be a viable shoe option as well, though a bit less conservative.

+1. I despise patent leather, so it is either opera pumps (good luck finding those in an 8EEE) or highly shined plain toe balmorals which is what I currently wear. Given how many people show up to black tie events in loafers, bluchers, etc., there's just no way I'd ever feel self-conscious about not having technically proper tux shoes. Everything else about my black tie rig is purely traditional and correct, which is why I don't mind replacing one shiny black shoe with a different shiny black shoe.

I try not to wear them to the office but appreciate that I could if need be.

 

Yeah, I despise patent leather also, and can't really see myself in pumps, so I shine up my plain-toes.

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Originally Posted by Huntsman View Post

I owned a black/grosgrain RLPL tux for a while, but sold it. It did not have self-faced buttons. I also currently have (and wear) a lovely 1934 Hart, Schaffner & Marx black DJ, an Edward Sexton black DJ, and an RLPL white DJ (just the jacket), and none of them have self-faced buttons. This is fine with me, as I don't particularly like them very much.


Yeah, I despise patent leather also, and can't really see myself in pumps, so I shine up my plain-toes.

FWIW, my PRL DB 6x2 from a couple of years ago with grosgrain facing has covered buttons.
post #1197 of 3383
I was at a fundraiser for the American Cancer Society in Palm Beach last night. I was actually surprised at the number of people that had a "correct" black tie outfit, probably close to half. Saw several shawl lapel jackets too. Donald Trump was the emcee and wore black wingtip balmorals and a jacket that was probably an inch too long in the sleeves. I doubt he cared.
post #1198 of 3383
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Originally Posted by Fred G. Unn View Post

I was at a fundraiser for the American Cancer Society in Palm Beach last night. I was actually surprised at the number of people that had a "correct" black tie outfit, probably close to half. Saw several shawl lapel jackets too. Donald Trump was the emcee and wore black wingtip balmorals and a jacket that was probably an inch too long in the sleeves. I doubt he cared.

But, as a SF member, obviously you did. That's what matters.
post #1199 of 3383
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Originally Posted by Fred G. Unn View Post

I was at a fundraiser for the American Cancer Society in Palm Beach last night. I was actually surprised at the number of people that had a "correct" black tie outfit, probably close to half. Saw several shawl lapel jackets too. Donald Trump was the emcee and wore black wingtip balmorals and a jacket that was probably an inch too long in the sleeves. I doubt he cared.

Given who retires to Palm Beach I would imagine that this is one place you'd see a good number of correct ensembles.
post #1200 of 3383
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Btw, what do you think of these? I had them made up a while ago and forgot to post them after they were finished.

I don't wear matching cufflinks.
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