The State of Black Tie: Your Observations - Page 74
I've always thought it was fine, since the reality of it is that today most people dont know what to wear unless they're told. Even if you know what's correct, you're still unsure if you will be completely out of place dressed appropriately and have to deal with a very angry bride.
There is no bride or groomzilla for my wedding, but my friends/family generally like to be more formal for weddings and it will be after 6.
I agree. It may have been uncouth at one time, but at this point, you pretty much have to clarify.
This essentially describes just about any thread on SF, and doubly so when it comes to this thread.
I don't think this is true in the U.S.
As for Europe? Well, get back to me when you turnaround your socialist decay.
Actually, now that I think about it, the invitation to Rubinacci's 10-year anniversary party at the Italian embassy in London stipulated a dress code. But maybe that was for the benefit of his unruly American clients.
I do not think you understand the idea of what constitutes a formal invitation.
LOL! I think you understand completely the idea of what constitutes an informal invitation.
Not only will everyone know, no one is going home hungry from any event in your family.
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I frequently come into contact with a mens choir where they all wear black tie. However, last time I saw them only one out of eight was wearing it in a at least half decent way. The others had wing collars with the wings pointing in all sorts of direction, terrible black loafers, pre tied bow ties, the wrong sizes and whatnot. They all wear black tie frequently, probably at least once or twice a month. It saddens me so that they can't do it right. Their singing is great, but the entire preformance would be taken to a new level if only they knew how to wear black tie.
(First post, yay me!)
Yeah, that's what I would have thought. I'm not buying this whole thing that people, when in the "correct" circles, would know to wear black tie simply because an event is in the evening. At least, if such circles exist, they are so small as to be useless for instructive purposes here.
Maybe I'm the wrong sort, but I would never wear black tie to an evening wedding without being told to. And I do think it would look incredibly odd if you were the only one outside the wedding party wearing a dinner suit. In fact, I think it would be construed as very rude. For the same reason, I would never wear a flower in my lapel to a wedding unless I was in the party.
Yes, yes, I understand that back in some other time doing either would be the default, but the default has changed.
I think it's a mixed bag. It really depends on who the conversation draws. In many threads, there is a strong reverse-snob-snobbery.
I think you're an FNB poster who comes here every now and then to fuck with people. Maybe you should think for a moment about how sad that is.