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post #226 of 339
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Originally Posted by Tokyo Slim View Post
None of the web features will likely work there, considering that EDGE is outdated here, and our new stuff has been outdated in Japan for 5 years.

The iPhone they'll release in Japan (and Europe probably) will definitely be 3G. I'm sure they'll add GPS as well seeing as they tout the Google maps feature so much..
post #227 of 339
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The iPhone they'll release in Japan (and Europe probably) will definitely be 3G. I'm sure they'll add GPS as well seeing as they tout the Google maps feature so much..
Um... The iPhone will be a niche product in Japan at best. Most likely it will be dismissed as a relatively useless fashion item for a season or two and forgotten. A: Every new phone in Japan has to has a HD digital reciever. I'm not sure whether its a regulation, or just that every new phone in Japan comes with one because thats what the market wants. Thats right. A digital television reciever that gets all the broadcasted television channels available. There are more coming all the time. Many new phones are also able to record these HD terrestrial broadcast channels to internal flash memory or to memory cards which can be replayed on other devices. The phone I posted below, as well as the Sharp Aquos phone, both contain the actual graphics engine from the Bravia and Aquos tv lines in the phone. mmmm tasty. B: Phones in Japan aren't just communication tools. Many people use them to purchase goods and items. Your phone is hooked into your bank account, verified by thumbscan and can purchase subway tickets, vending machine items, groceries, and etc. If you see something you want to purchase in a magazine, window display, or print ad, you can scan its barcode, and within minutes you will recieve a reciept and a tracking number. Many people's phones unlock their apartment door, or allow them into the parking garage at their work. The GPS there is also crucial, Apple would really have to step up their game, IE, real-time Satellite GPS step by step instructions. Basically, Apple would have to completely re-think the thing for it to even be competitive in Japan. When people say that their phone tech is light years ahead of ours, we aren't kidding. 4G is currently being tested over there, 3G has only been in place in the US for about a year, and is only in a few cities right now. It will be 5 years or so before it is even widely available in Middle America. I'm not kidding when I say that the iPhone won't work over there. It might finction as a phone... but not very well, and not for long. It also won't do 1/2 of what phones over there are doing now, and it will cost twice as much. I honestly can't see how it would be competitive. Mmmm
post #228 of 339
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Originally Posted by Tokyo Slim View Post

B: Phones in Japan aren't just communication tools. Many people use them to purchase goods and items. Your phone is hooked into your bank account, verified by thumbscan and can purchase subway tickets, vending machine items, groceries, and etc.

If you see something you want to purchase in a magazine, window display, or print ad, you can scan its barcode, and within minutes you will recieve a reciept and a tracking number.

Many people's phones unlock their apartment door, or allow them into the parking garage at their work.


Wow, I never knew that. That is shweet.
post #229 of 339
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Originally Posted by Chadley View Post
Wow, I never knew that. That is shweet.

The barcode things are called a QR Code, which is a two dimensional pattern readable by a cameraphone that contains information. Its pretty sweet.

Evidently it can contain the information for 4300 alphanumeric characters, 7000 numeric only characters, 2900 bytes of binary data, or 1800 characters of Kanji.

http://qrcode.winksite.com/php/qr_im...styleforum.net

This is a jpeg of the Styleforum main page in QR code.

Anyone with keitei care to peep that and see if I got it right?
post #230 of 339
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Originally Posted by Tokyo Slim View Post
The barcode things are called a QR Code, which is a two dimensional pattern readable by a cameraphone that contains information. Its pretty sweet.

Evidently it can contain the information for 4300 alphanumeric characters, 7000 numeric only characters, 2900 bytes of binary data, or 1800 characters of Kanji.

http://qrcode.winksite.com/php/qr_im...styleforum.net

This is a jpeg of the Styleforum main page in QR code.

Anyone with keitei care to peep that and see if I got it right?

Yup, worked on my Docomo D902i
http://styleforum.net is what it brought up

and capn it says he lives in Japan on just under his avatar, I didnt even have to use my "geographical mind reading abilities" to recognize that.
post #231 of 339
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Originally Posted by Andre Yew View Post
The video demo of the keyboard is pretty cool:

http://www.apple.com/iphone/usingiphone/keyboard.html

It's very impressive how much they accounted for.

--Andre

That video felt like slow motion. I'd never use something where I had to type that slow or even close to that slow.
post #232 of 339
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Originally Posted by Tokyo Slim View Post
A: Every new phone in Japan has to has a HD digital reciever.

Wow, how utterly useless. Hi-def TV on a screen that doesn't have the resolution to display standard def.

Sounds to me like that old Japanese electric shaver + tape deck thingy.
post #233 of 339
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Originally Posted by SGladwell View Post
Wow, how utterly useless. Hi-def TV on a screen that doesn't have the resolution to display standard def. Sounds to me like that old Japanese electric shaver + tape deck thingy.
Not everyone has room for a TIVO machine at home... and most computer monitors/televisions are fully capable... Plus, its not like it doesn't pull all the lo-fi standard TV off the airwaves too. Plus, the screens look a lot better than you think. Its not 1080p, but its the best looking cell phone screen I've ever seen. You are just mad because America will just start getting stuff this cool in like 20 years. MAYBE.
post #234 of 339
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Originally Posted by Tokyo Slim View Post
Not everyone has room for a TIVO machine at home... and most computer monitors/televisions are fully capable... Plus, its not like it doesn't pull all the lo-fi standard TV off the airwaves too.

Plus, the screens look a lot better than you think. Its not 1080p, but its the best looking cell phone screen I've ever seen.

You are just mad because America will just start getting stuff this cool in like 20 years. MAYBE.

Outside of football season I watch about 6 hours of TV a week. And four of them are the Daily Show and Colbert Report. So carrying around a TV tuner couldn't be lower on my priority list.
post #235 of 339
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Originally Posted by SGladwell View Post
Outside of football season I watch about 6 hours of TV a week. And four of them are the Daily Show and Colbert Report. So carrying around a TV tuner couldn't be lower on my priority list.

Well you aren't really Japanese either, are you?
post #236 of 339
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Originally Posted by briancl View Post
That video felt like slow motion. I'd never use something where I had to type that slow or even close to that slow.

Do you mean the one-finger thing at the beginning or the two-thumb thing at the end? If it's the 2-thumb thing, you must be very impressive to watch on a normal PDA phone.

--Andre
post #237 of 339
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Well you aren't really Japanese either, are you?
Indeed. When I choose to buy a new gadget, I go for utility and function over novelty. The Japanese in general just seem to constantly want new shit, regardless of whether or not the new shit provides any useful new utility and/or function.
post #238 of 339
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Originally Posted by briancl View Post
That video felt like slow motion. I'd never use something where I had to type that slow or even close to that slow.
I love people who don't watch the whole video and then make fools out of themselves. It's a guided tour, obviously he won't be trying to break a world record while showing off the device. Kind of like your teacher in math class will stop and explain each step to solving an equation, instead of getting through it in five seconds like she could and then leaving you to figure out what the hell just happened. Hint: watch last minute (or so) of the video.
post #239 of 339
Just walked by some block long line that ended at the Cingular store. iPhone release: June 29.
post #240 of 339
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Originally Posted by SGladwell View Post
Indeed. When I choose to buy a new gadget, I go for utility and function over novelty. The Japanese in general just seem to constantly want new shit, regardless of whether or not the new shit provides any useful new utility and/or function.
Well see the problem is that function and utility are completely different concepts to you vs. a Japanese person. Being able to watch the news or the baseball game and tune everyone else out on the hour long train ride to work or school in the morning, while standing, crammed full up against the other 30,000 people in your train with nothing else to look at but the back of someone else's head is both functional and utilitarian. To you, its just some stupid gadget. But again, you aren't a Japanese person.
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