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Doesn Saphir Rennovateur Darken Leather?

post #1 of 15
11/19/11 at 8:12am
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Do you know if Rennovateur has the potential darken brown cordovan or calf skin? Reason I ask is that I have 2 pairs of RL Marlow wingtips - one in the box and one that I use. The pair in the box is lighter, whereas the pair that I wear is a shade or two darker.

Asides from the pair in the box being brand new, the main difference is that the I've used Rennovateur several times on the pair that I use.
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post #2 of 15
11/19/11 at 8:22am
All conditioners will potentially darken a shoe somewhat. It is simply a function of the added moisture in the leather.
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post #3 of 15
11/19/11 at 9:08am
Isn't the RL Marlow made from a whiskey-shade shell cordovan?

There's natural variation in the color of this leather.
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post #4 of 15
11/19/11 at 9:20am
If a product has mink oil in it, or pig oil relabeled as mink oil, it can, it probably will darken leather to one degree or another.
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post #5 of 15
11/19/11 at 10:19am
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Originally Posted by DWFII View Post

If a product has mink oil in it, or pig oil relabeled as mink oil, it can, it probably will darken leather to one degree or another.

I gather some unscrupulous manufactures do the pig-mink substitution?

Is there a difference in how the two oils perform?
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post #6 of 15
11/19/11 at 10:21am
If the shoes are dry it will darken them initially but the color will return in a few minutes as the oil is absorbed.
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post #7 of 15
11/19/11 at 10:28am
I suggest you use venetian cream instead
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post #8 of 15
11/19/11 at 10:50am
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I suggest you use venetian cream instead

This is what Nick Horween recommends for shell.
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post #9 of 15
11/19/11 at 2:50pm
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I guess I probably shouldn't have bought the 10 jars of Rennovateur!
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Originally Posted by bibs View Post

I suggest you use venetian cream instead
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post #10 of 15
11/19/11 at 2:51pm
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I think the darker pair was always a little darker, but I'm not a 100% sure so Rennovateur might have had nothing to do with it.
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Originally Posted by lee_44106 View Post

Isn't the RL Marlow made from a whiskey-shade shell cordovan?
There's natural variation in the color of this leather.
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post #11 of 15
11/19/11 at 3:10pm
Nick Horween also specifically mentions Saphir as a great product for use on Cordovan - so don't get your panties in a wad over it.

And most all cordovan is going to have color variation. Often on the same shoe. That's part of it's beauty.
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post #12 of 15
11/19/11 at 6:20pm
I've never noticed Reno darkening shoes, and I have used it a lot. Maybe it does. If it does, it has not been noticeable.
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post #13 of 15
11/20/11 at 8:56am
My Marlows darkened slightly but I felt it darkened it back to its original color cause it lightened after use.
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post #14 of 15
11/20/11 at 7:28pm
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Originally Posted by dreamtripper View Post

I guess I probably shouldn't have bought the 10 jars of Rennovateur!

I love Reno as well, but I use venetian cream on my shell cordovans and they have minimal to no color change.
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post #15 of 15
11/20/11 at 7:43pm
We use both Reno and Venetian all the time. Neither changes the color. You may be rubbing it to hard into the leather.
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