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Yeah, the point of the piece in the documentary was that buses can be incredibly efficient if designed from the ground up. They were basically like trains on tires. Had their own dedicated road. Had their own dedicated stops. Buses had much larger doors to accommodate a greater # of people getting on and off at one time. They didn't have to lean down for old people b/c the stops were elevated and the entrance to the bus was at curb level with no steps to go up or down. Stops were less frequent (one of the things that drives me nuts about Chicago buses is that they will stop 5 times over 5 blocks). I agree that most buses in American aren't more efficient than the train. The point in that segment was that they can be wildly more efficient given the minimal expense and with appropriate planning / design.

I remember some city here in britain planning a system like that. Spent millions in planning and then it never happened, or something. Still it's other people's money they're wasting so why should they care.
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Also, someone didn't think that robots could do the job of many MTA / CTA employees. Seriously? You don't think a computer could drive a train? And the people at the help / ticket booth actually do nothing.

The DLR (a crappy offshoot of the tube for people unfortunate enough to work in the docklands), is automated, with driverless trains. You can sit right at the front and look out the window as you go along, like the world's worst roller coaster. I've heard it is not as reliable as the rest of the network - perhaps because when something goes wrong there just isn't anyone around to sort it out.
post #992 of 1735
They actually demo'd a computer controlled train on the L line. The MTA union required that the train be fully staffed anyways. Not sure what ever happened, but I imagine they killed it--no sense in dealing with debugging the computer control if you have to keep paying the same amount for people to stand around anyways.

Back to the busses, that's great about building separate roads and such. Really, you would absolutely need this to get anywhere close to train-level efficiency. But again, this is only going to work in some cities. In an older, denser city, like New York, or London, there is no way you could build those roads, short of going underground--at which point you might as well put in a train. Busses make a lot of sense for a newer, less populous city, but are an absolute disaster in a larger, denser city.

And yeah, +1 to MTA bus drivers are insane. I cannot even count the number of times I have seen a city bus blow through a stop light at full speed without even slowing down. And not just a yellow-changing-to-red light, a full red light. It's a miracle that more people aren't killed by them.
post #993 of 1735
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Originally Posted by aravenel View Post

They actually demo'd a computer controlled train on the L line. The MTA union required that the train be fully staffed anyways.

dear MTA union - fuck you.
post #994 of 1735
Most airport trains are automated and they seem to work just fine. I took one to my car at Ohare just yesterday.
post #995 of 1735
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Originally Posted by texas_jack View Post

Most airport trains are automated and they seem to work just fine. I took one to my car at Ohare just yesterday.

It's definitely doable. Admittedly, a subway would be much more complex as there are far more train crossings, and generally just more trains to deal with, but it's a surmountable problem. The issue is a political one I'd wager, not a technological one.
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I think the issue with busses even if they were more efficient is the relative price of gasoline vs. electricity. Electric busses would help, of course.
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I have noticed that Monday mornings the subways are usually messed up, slow, or painfully over-crowded. I think I know why. My guess is the transition from the weekend people to the early weekday people sucks. This, plus the early weekday people are still drunk, and/or hungover from their weekend. Really pisses me off because every Monday morning the platform is like a line to a Justin Bieber concert. And yes, I mean hot. nod[1].gif

Also loquacious people early in the morning on the subway should be bound and gagged. Had this dickweed cackling next to my head about photoshop all the way to work. Piercing voice.
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I took the bus once about 10 years ago.

About 15 people stood up to get off at the next stop.

The stop came and he let the door open for 2 seconds then he closed it.  The entire bus of people yelled to stop and let us off.

The driver refused because he was late on his route.

post #999 of 1735
i saw this ad on a path train. Who thought it would be ideal to give the weird looking guy from Mission Chinese Food a tight pants penis?

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also, what's with all the people being hit by trains? 8 incidents in the past 6 days or something.
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I know, most of them appear to be suicides. I think it is funny the MTA is proposing all of these crazy ideas to limit people being able to get on tracks. I think the city needs to concentrate harder on suicide prevention, not track deaths. Track deaths are a symptom, not a problem.

I guess jumping from the roof of the NYU library just ain't what it used to be.
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Originally Posted by gomestar View Post

also, what's with all the people being hit by trains? 8 incidents in the past 6 days or something.

Was just thinking that myself. Craziness.
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

I guess jumping from the roof of the NYU library just ain't what it used to be.

its lost its splendor
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Originally Posted by gomestar View Post

also, what's with all the people being hit by trains? Eight Nine incidents in the past six days or something.

FTFM
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