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post #16 of 35
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No idea, but I can tell that Gucci is authentic just from the labels there.
There is no way it is a fake unless the person was able to get original Gucci tags, and even so, he would need a suit maker who could perfectly replicate Gucci's signature suit style from 10 or so years ago.
SpooPoker would also be able to help you, he owns many TF/Gucci pieces. Maybe he will give his two reichsmarks on this. Spoo, please confirm this is original smile.gif


10 or so years would put this suit in a period when Tom Ford was the Creative Director at Gucci.  Right?
 

 

post #17 of 35
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Originally Posted by JSingh View Post

Now that you all have established that this Gucci suit is authentic, any idea why there is no woolen felt underlay beneath the collar and upper lapels?  I mean, am I the only one that finds this super strange? Any ideas why this is so? Thanks.


Who knows? Gucci is a designer label, and designer labels dont necessarily follow the rules. Suit is also preowned, so maybe a prior owner did something to his suit!? Regardless, it does not matter.

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10 or so years would put this suit in a period when Tom Ford was the Creative Director at Gucci. Right?

He was there in the 90's, went to YSL for a period, then opened his own label. Im not sure Tom Ford was with Gucci 10 years ago. The suit you have could be more recent though, but my hunch says 02/03 because I had a suit just like it.
post #18 of 35
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SpooPoker would also be able to help you, he owns many TF/Gucci pieces. Maybe he will give his two reichsmarks on this. Spoo, please confirm this is original smile.gif

Its real. No question. Probably about 2004-2006ish?

The reason for your under collar being nonexistent? Could be the shatnez.
post #19 of 35
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Originally Posted by Klobber View Post

He was there in the 90's, went to YSL for a period, then opened his own label. Im not sure Tom Ford was with Gucci 10 years ago. The suit you have could be more recent though, but my hunch says 02/03 because I had a suit just like it.

He started his own label in 2005.
post #20 of 35
This may have been a Tom Ford-era suit; he seems to prefer a self-cloth undercollar to a melton undercollar. Done correctly it's actually more work. As always, pics would be helpful.
post #21 of 35
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Originally Posted by SpooPoker View Post

Its real. No question. Probably about 2004-2006ish?
The reason for your under collar being nonexistent? Could be the shatnez.

No- shatnez prohibits blending linen and wool- the canvas typically used in collar construction is linen so you have to sub the interlining, not the undercollar itself.
post #22 of 35
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No- shatnez prohibits blending linen and wool- the canvas typically used in collar construction is linen so you have to sub the interlining, not the undercollar itself.

*skulksaway*
post #23 of 35
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I recently purchased....  

No need to shout, using extra-large and bold font..........we can hear you without your megaphone!

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post #24 of 35
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This may have been a Tom Ford-era suit; he seems to prefer a self-cloth undercollar to a melton undercollar. Done correctly it's actually more work. As always, pics would be helpful.



I think jefferyd is on to something.  Here are a few photos under the collar and lapel. Also, I would imagine that the jacket interior chest pocket label would tell us when this suit was made.  Under the words "Riga" (Italian for "line") are the number "98."  I believe Tom Ford was Gucci's Creative Director from 1994-2004.  So this would make sense. But I have included a photo of the label. Can anyone look at it and tell when this suit was made based on any of the information there?  By the way, sorry for the bold font, etc.  I am new at this so I am learning the proper forum style.  Thanks.  I would appreciate your thoughts on this additional information. 

 

 

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post #25 of 35
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Originally Posted by Klobber View Post


Who knows? Gucci is a designer label, and designer labels dont necessarily follow the rules. Suit is also preowned, so maybe a prior owner did something to his suit!? Regardless, it does not matter.
He was there in the 90's, went to YSL for a period, then opened his own label. Im not sure Tom Ford was with Gucci 10 years ago. The suit you have could be more recent though, but my hunch says 02/03 because I had a suit just like it.



I just posted a photo of the label.  Perhaps that would help tell us when this suit was made.  Thanks.

 

post #26 of 35
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I think jefferyd is on to something.  Here are a few photos under the collar and lapel. Also, I would imagine that the jacket interior chest pocket label would tell us when this suit was made.  Under the words "Riga" (Italian for "line") are the number "98."  I believe Tom Ford was Gucci's Creative Director from 1994-2004.  So this would make sense. But I have included a photo of the label. Can anyone look at it and tell when this suit was made based on any of the information there?  By the way, sorry for the bold font, etc.  I am new at this so I am learning the proper forum style.  Thanks.  I would appreciate your thoughts on this additional information. 

 

 

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Correction:  As others have correctly pointed out, Tom Ford was with Gucci in the 90's (I believe starting in 1994) and then went on to YSL when Gucci bought it before starting his own line. 

 

post #27 of 35
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I just posted a photo of the label.  Perhaps that would help tell us when this suit was made.  Thanks.

I swear that suit is a 02/03/04 model. I bought one in the same style in 2003 I think. If they carried it over, it could be as recent as Spoo said, i.e. 05/06. I lost track of Gucci in the mid noughties after discovering other brands I wanted to explore. Either way, it is a good purchase, it looks like you got sucked into a bidding war and had to pay perhaps 25% over what would have been ideal.

Are you the same guy who scored that Brioni possibly real possibly fake suit, correct? What was the outcome of that?
post #28 of 35
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Same guy.  Good memory.  Thanks to you all I got a full refund.

post #29 of 35
This is Tom Ford (made by Zegna who also made the Gucci stuff, IIRC). The techniques are fairly consistent; unlike your last suit whose construction was plainly inferior, if this were to be a fake (and I doubt it) they went to a lot of trouble to make it a good one.

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post #30 of 35
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By looking at the photo of the label I posted, can you tell when this suit was made? Thanks.

 

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Originally Posted by jefferyd View Post

This is Tom Ford (made by Zegna who also made the Gucci stuff, IIRC). The techniques are fairly consistent; unlike your last suit whose construction was plainly inferior, if this were to be a fake (and I doubt it) they went to a lot of trouble to make it a good one.
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