ill dressed department store emplyees

This thing been bugging for awhile now, let's see what SFers think. When I walk in a department that sell men clothes,specially quality men's clothe, I expect to enter the haven of well dressed individuals.Sadly, this is not the case 90% of the times, at least in South Florida and it bothers me a great freaking deal. I am not even talking about them wearing high quality luxurious piece that they are selling, but I am referring to fit and coordination.

The first time I walked in Neiman Marcus at Boca Raton town center mall, the guy who greeted me in the suit, SC department had his jacket sleeves reaching to his knuckles, a thousand breaks on his trousers, overall the suit look like it was too big for him. I can go on and on but you get the point. It's not a once in awhile incident, it's an everyday thing and and it's everywhere.

I guess the reason it's bothering so much is because I seem not able t land a job at this stores because I lack of retails and sales experience. Really, Seriously?! Speaking of job, Men's Wearhouse has a position so called " Wardrobe Consultant" , two months ago I walk into one of their stores and I had the GREAT HONOR TO TALK to the on site "WARDROBE CONSULTANT". This gentlemen was wearing a black french cuff pointed collared shirt, black with blue pinstripe suit with a lighter blue tie, the tie knot was so oversize to the ponited his pointed collared shirt was ready to fly. Of course, as a wardrobe consultant he know a lot about fit, so the cuff of his shirt was a couple of cm shy of his thumb's knuckles so was his jacket's and not mention the million breaks on his pants. Oh, this is a position I got turn down for last year because I lack of "RETAIL & SALES" experience.

My main concern is shouldn't enthusiasm, interest and some level knowledge be on top of the qualification list  when hiring for any position? I just want to know what you guys think and if you see it the same way I do.

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Originally Posted by mcbrown 


Unfortunately, no. Ability to sell stuff is the top qualification. My brother was a great car salesman, and a great shoe salesman, and a great stereo salesman, and a great computer salesman - the product never mattered, just the person.
In the case of men's clothing the question isn't "Does the salesman has any taste or style whatsoever?" The question is "Can the salesman convince Joe Shmoe to walk out with a brand new widget today, where the widget just happens to be a suit?" And for basically any customer other than SF readers, the latter question has nothing to do with style.

Maybe true and very sad at the same time. It was disturbing to me to see a so called "Wardrobe Consultant" was looking as such, but 99% of the people who walk in the store may not notice a thing and he may eventually sell them 3 shirts, 2 suits, etc... But as for me, he is not qualify to sell me a tie bar even when I am in my coffin.

I'll add, if your close don't fit you, how are you going help find the ones that fit me? If you are squared toe plastic shoes, how are you going to sell me a shell cordovan shoes?

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Originally Posted by Trompe le Monde 

try BB instead

Independent stores are often satisfactory to me, like BB, Zegna, even BOSS.

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Originally Posted by GoldenTribe 

If poorly dressed people bother you so much, you obviously are not the kind of person any clothier wants working on their front line anyway.
Salesmen are chosen -- and retained -- for their selling ability. Dressing well, even at a store selling clothes, is borderline irrelevant, though at a place like Saks one has every right to expect that would be part and parcel with the selling ability.

I hope you understand what I meant. It's not poorly dressed people that bothers me, if that was the case, I'll have a heart attack each time I step outside of my house. In fact, I got close and family members who are not in the well dressed wagon, I don't give them my opinion if they don't ask and life goes on. But when I step to Nordstrom nd head to the men's department  I expect to see different, show me you know and have an interested in what you're doing before you open your mouth. I am sorry, but I don't think you can help me find a shirt while I can fit my fist between your neck and your shirt collar. I was referring to only salesman, I was referring to everyone who work in this department, the sales associates, etc... You mention, they are retrained, maybe they include a "how to dress better" section. Keep in mind, I am not talking them wearing the Zegna, Canali, Corneliani that they are selling or stocking, one can a 15.5 shirt at Marshalls

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Originally Posted by cioni2k 

Its about their ability as a salesman. Which is what you lack. I understand your frustration. But someone like you or many other SF's might be trying to push the common-folk into a well-fitting Zegna suit (and rightfully so) before offloading a cheap boxy Lauren by Ralph Lauren or Hugo Boss or the likes, therefore missing out on an easy sale once the person walks away in frustration. Exaggeration, but you see my point. Sales Sales Sales. Most people want to buy and look like shit.