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post #31 of 40
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Originally Posted by totolino85 View Post

yeah we kind of like those bullshits in italy :-) 

 

It's just antithetical imho, as the whole point of tailoring styles and garment details is that the maker or at least the quality should be self-evident, without the need for a silly lapel pin to tell the world you're wearing a $4k jacket.  In fact, the label itself and branding is far less important that the fit, quality and craftsmanship.  The "bullshits," as you put it are exactly that - bullshit marketing.  

 

Also, to be clear, I fully acknowledge that Isaia's branding and marketing didn't dramatically ramp up in the past couple of years in order to sell more in Italy.  


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post #32 of 40
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It's just antithetical imho, as the whole point of tailoring styles and garment details is that the maker or at least the quality should be self-evident, without the need for a silly lapel pin to tell the world you're wearing a $4k jacket.  In fact, the label itself and branding is far less important that the fit, quality and craftsmanship.  The "bullshits," as you put it are exactly that - bullshit marketing.  

 

Also, to be clear, I fully acknowledge that Isaia's branding and marketing didn't dramatically ramp up in the past couple of years in order to sell more in Italy.  

 

Fully agree with you! It seems to me the brands that has something to show to the world like Isaia and so on are trying to follow Gucci and those "take my wallet and rob me" brands rather than invest in quality itself. When I was fatter I used to steal my dad old jackets that he would not use anymore on daily basis and they felt much more quality that the stuff I buy now for my self ,being them same brands most of the times.

I'm no expert so be carefull I only speak of "feeling" wearing the stuffs, but I really think in the price you pay for a Isaia or Caruso nowdays there is way more money going to adverts than it used to be in the past and much less in fabrics ; the style got better, or at least closer to my taste but I somehow still like my dad's flannels better than mine. 

post #33 of 40
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Originally Posted by totolino85 View Post

 

Fully agree with you! It seems to me the brands that has something to show to the world like Isaia and so on are trying to follow Gucci and those "take my wallet and rob me" brands rather than invest in quality itself. When I was fatter I used to steal my dad old jackets that he would not use anymore on daily basis and they felt much more quality that the stuff I buy now for my self ,being them same brands most of the times.

I'm no expert so be carefull I only speak of "feeling" wearing the stuffs, but I really think in the price you pay for a Isaia or Caruso nowdays there is way more money going to adverts than it used to be in the past and much less in fabrics ; the style got better, or at least closer to my taste but I somehow still like my dad's flannels better than mine. 

 

As in any industry, there is a tipping point in #menswear and Isaia, an old (and I mean old) favorite of mine, unfortunately reached it a couple of years ago (again, imho as others will disagree on varying grounds).

post #34 of 40
I'm a little late to this conversation but I just picked up a Cantarelli "Washed" line in navy blue washed wool (totally deconstructed, no canvassing, no lining no shoulders...buttons are not functional) and was super impressed. They have been pushing these Vintage and Washed lines...I think they are great and very youthful.

Re: Isaia...I picked up jakcet recently at a Barney's sale and didn't realize how short they got..and fabric was really nothing special. I remember when Isaia jackets felt like such a privlidge...like totolino85 said, I don't get that feeling anymore...
post #35 of 40
I have an off topic question regarding the obvious branding "shits". Do many people who own Isaia jackets/suits actually wear them? What about other "shits" from cheaper brands like L.B.M 1911, Tombolini, etc
post #36 of 40
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Originally Posted by MTLinStyle View Post

I have an off topic question regarding the obvious branding "shits". Do many people who own Isaia jackets/suits actually wear them? What about other "shits" from cheaper brands like L.B.M 1911, Tombolini, etc

Pardon?
post #37 of 40

I'm guessing he means lapel pins (coral for Isaia), flowers (lardini), etc. 

post #38 of 40
Correct. I meant the lapel pins, thank you for clarifying my question. I always get asked "what's that?" when I wear one. Do others get the same reaction?
post #39 of 40
I wore the coral pin when I broke my first Isaia jacket and was asked about it. The next time I wore it somebody remarked about it. Now it sits with my cufflinks.
post #40 of 40
Adolf Loos wouldn't be happy about them.
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