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Poll Results: What do you think of Mr. Cain's style (EXCLUSIVE OF POLITICS)?

This is a multiple choice poll
  • 23% (4)
    love it!
  • 5% (1)
    hate it!
  • 23% (4)
    meh... i like certain aspects, but dislike others.
  • 23% (4)
    not my thing, but he has a good sartorial sense.
  • 11% (2)
    he needs our help.
  • 11% (2)
    i dig the ranger hat and/or the ranger hat IS cool.
  • 0% (0)
    who is herman cain? / i haven't seen or paid enough attention to have an opinion.
17 Total Votes  
post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
i appreciate that the man doesn't wear a sack suit or cbd, and he also manages to avoid the affected steve harvey look. i also prefer peak lapels to notched regardless of the occasion. they're aesthetically more pleasing to me. i usually don't see peak lapels on suits often either, and i prefer to go against the status quo in a subtle ways. i usually compliment those who wear them, as i do when i spot bow ties, and i appreciate when others notice mine. it's kind of like being in a club. finally, i disagree worth the writer's implication that herman cain's preference for a ranger hat is cliche. for one thing, at least he wears one on occasion. secondly, a fedora is far more cliche.
Edited by tbell ncsu - 11/4/11 at 2:06am
post #2 of 14
Thread Starter 
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/11/04/herman-cain-fashion-double-breasted-suits-don-t-fit-his-message.html
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The frontrunner’s double-breasted suits are sending the wrong message as he goes on the offensive against allegations of sexual harassment. Robin Givhan explains why.

Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain has been trying to shut down the unsavory storyline that he sexually harassed at least two female co-workers while heading the National Restaurant Association from 1993-1996, by proclaiming that he was “falsely accused” and suggesting that he’s the victim of a witch hunt, a liberal—or perhaps Republican—conspiracy, or some other kind of evil voodoo.

What he has not done is make any evident attempt to consistently telegraph trustworthy, innocent, presidential or future-well-paid-pundit as cameras scrutinize his every glance and gesture.

In the matter of aesthetics and non-verbal communication, Cain appears never to have witnessed a 60 Minutes ambush interview, a TMZ video, or a single episode of Law & Order. Otherwise, he would be familiar with the rule: Don’t get angry on camera. The candidate understandably has become aggravated by media queries about his past—but such is life on the campaign trail. So he was not helped when he was recently taped snarling “Excuse me, EXCUSE ME!” to a throng of reporters wielding cameras. His image was also not aided by the presence of a hulking bodyguard sporting a pin-striped suit with a Steve Harvey-esque, four-button stance and looking more like a thug named Tiny than a professional security presence.

Cain’s own attire hasn’t been much better, but for different reasons.

No other candidate on the Republican docket has demonstrated the kind of affection Cain has shown for this menswear silhouette with its wide, peak lapels. He has favored six-on-two button suits in solid charcoal as well as those with subtle chalk stripes. To be sure, Cain’s suits are well-cut and he has the stature to carry them. Still, they have always been a curious choice and they have now become ill-advised. He would do well to expunge every double-breasted suit from his wardrobe.

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Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain on Capitol Hill Nov. 2, 2011 in Washington, D.C. , Chip Somodevilla / Getty Images

A double-breasted suit is more formal than a single-breasted one. Because of that, there are those who believe a double-breasted suit conveys a certain elegance of a bygone era, calling to mind Humphrey Bogart in a white dinner jacket or Gianni Agnelli with his dashing and eclectic style. They are favored by high-end designers and aficionados of bespoke tailoring. But in this more casual age—when the “suits” are feeling the rage of Occupy Wall Street, the Tea Party, and anyone who has helplessly watched the rapid decline of their 401(k)—Cain’s garb carries with it a sort of haughty swagger.

At first, the style seemed to play to his hustings sales pitch: He was the accomplished businessman who, while preaching tough love—or disdain—to the unemployed, assured voters that he could right this country’s finances if only given the opportunity. It’s a daring approach, as even Mitt Romney, who also sells himself as having a keen businessman’s insight on job creation, has been skittish about exuding suit-wearing bravado.

But now, when it’s alleged that Cain wielded his executive power in a sexual and inappropriate way, that in-your-face, sartorial swagger reads in damning ways.

Cain’s love of double-breasted suits also links him to religion. He is an ordained Baptist preacher and a man with a habit of breaking out in gospel song at the slightest provocation. Ministers of a certain persuasion often seem to have a predilection for double-breasted suits, as well as three-piece ones. Some of that must surely be because of tradition and formality, but there is also an element of the hierarchal at work. Instead of choosing the most modest and humble of suits—a sack suit, perhaps—they opt for something more regal. The fancy suit distinguishes them from the mere congregants they lead. It gives them the appearance of clout, dignity, and righteous grandiosity.

But when a finery bedecked Cain turned a lectern into a (bully) pulpit by busting out a hymn, he sounded more self-righteous than meek.

Black politicians have always had a wider berth when it comes to attire. They often dress more formally to make their authority more evident in a society that might question it. And historically they have been allowed more pizzazz, more personal flair. But Cain’s double-breasted suits don’t come with a creative flourish. They come with a standard yellow four-in-hand and an American flag pin perched on his left lapel. Sometimes he dons a ranger hat, which is about as imaginative as cowboy boots for affecting a down-home cool.

Cain describes himself as an unconventional candidate. But he’s wrapped himself in every sartorial cliché about authority, pecking order, and religiosity.
Cain describes himself as an unconventional candidate. His campaign organization certainly is unorthodox. But Cain wrapped himself in every sartorial cliché about authority, pecking order, and religiosity. Through his wardrobe, he positioned himself as the flamboyant boss man and the irreproachable believer.

But lately, as he dabs the sweat from his brow, the click-click-click of the cameras reveal that Cain has lost control of his message. That savvy, crafted image has turned on him. And far from defining him as an empty suit, it suggests he is one filled with both hubris and sanctimony.

Edited by tbell ncsu - 11/4/11 at 6:03am
post #3 of 14
Thread Starter 
no opinions?
post #4 of 14

That article is retarded.

post #5 of 14

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Originally Posted by gegarrenton View Post

That article is retarded.

 

Great critique... not. Actually, I think the article is quite insightful about the symbolism of dress in politics. It's not a question of whether any of us, as people interested in style, favour DB suits, but what DB suits say to the general population in the context in which Cain finds himself. And for that reason, like it or not, the piece gets a lot of things right.

post #6 of 14
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Originally Posted by FlyingMonkey View Post

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Great critique... not. Actually, I think the article is quite insightful about the symbolism of dress in politics. It's not a question of whether any of us, as people interested in style, favour DB suits, but what DB suits say to the general population in the context in which Cain finds himself. And for that reason, like it or not, the piece gets a lot of things right.



Don't know what to tell you other than I disagree (not with the symbolism of dress, which I do agree with you).  I find everyone of her conclusions wrong.  Therefore I find the article retarded. 

post #7 of 14

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Originally Posted by gegarrenton View Post

Don't know what to tell you other than I disagree (not with the symbolism of dress, which I do agree with you).  I find everyone of her conclusions wrong.  Therefore I find the article retarded. 


But, come on, 'retarded' is a pretty juvenile term to use. Do you make because you just don't like criticism of Cain? The use of a term like 'retarded' suggests a frustration that would cause people to think so - but I don't know, so I am asking. I think, if we are going to talk about style and its symbolism in politics, we have to try to get past our own political biases.

 

post #8 of 14
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Originally Posted by FlyingMonkey View Post

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But, come on, 'retarded' is a pretty juvenile term to use. Do you make because you just don't like criticism of Cain? The use of a term like 'retarded' suggests a frustration that would cause people to think so - but I don't know, so I am asking. I think, if we are going to talk about style and its symbolism in politics, we have to try to get past our own political biases.

 


I could honestly care less about Cain, since you asked.  He has some redeeming traits, but I think is probably to inexperienced to be the top leader.  But that is neither here nor there.  I tend to base my response on the level of the information in question.  I find that article to be pretty juvenile in scope, the assumption show a third grade understanding of social dynamics at best.  Hence retarded.

 

post #9 of 14
Thread Starter 
i think she's spot on regarding db being more formal than sb, as is the peak lapel in comparison to notched lapels. she's also right regarding the propensity of baptist preachers and their suits. my father is black and devout a southern baptist. the few times i attended church with him, every dude was in a double breasted jacket, often in cream or various pastel shades. i've lived in the south most of my life, and southern black men have a particular style (ie. steve harvey).
post #10 of 14
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Originally Posted by gegarrenton View Post



I could honestly care less about Cain, since you asked.  He has some redeeming traits, but I think is probably to inexperienced to be the top leader.  But that is neither here nor there.  I tend to base my response on the level of the information in question.  I find that article to be pretty juvenile in scope, the assumption show a third grade understanding of social dynamics at best.  Hence retarded.

So you care about Cain quite a bit then?
post #11 of 14
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Originally Posted by gort View Post


So you care about Cain quite a bit then?


Lol.  No.  Saying could care less only implies there is room to go down anyway, not that the interest was hi to start with!

post #12 of 14
Thread Starter 
um... go ron paul!
post #13 of 14
Personally, I don't find the article insightful at all. I think Mr. Cain's style is appealing... he has a good sense of humor, smiles a lot, dresses well, appears true to his convictions and conveys his ideas clearly and succinctly. Refreshing in politics these days. Rather I find the article grasping at straws to try and bring him down. I would never think that his DB suits make him look like a sexual aggressor! I won't go into how I feel about the way the media is covering the accusations against Cain other than refer you to this:
post #14 of 14
The article is trying too hard with a few facts that are technically true but not of significance in this case. It is pretty common for people to know a few things about the history of clothes and not be so well attuned to what constitutes style. Maybe because it is their self-conscious lack of style that led them to study clothes in books and on websites. I don't know.

Whatever, Cain looks good. As does Romney. Romney looks like Manton is dressing him.

Perry and Ron Paul too often look awful. Perry's puffy face will make the drunk charges stick. He looks like a drunk even when he's sober. And he wears some of the cheapest-looking suits. He looks like he should be on the NFL Network or ESPN in some of those suits.

Paul's suits are consistently awful. His jackets always look oversized. Huge gap around his collar. Either he has a pencil neck or he's in denial about his size, thinking he's bigger than he is. Either way it always adds to "the crazy" that he emanates with his body language, on television.

My sense is that Cain looks grandfatherly. He looks like a church elder. White men respond to that positively. Perhaps some women as well. He looks legitimate, genuine. The sexual harassment stuff is not good, of course, but he still looks good in what he wears and he still looks grandfatherly. The meaning of his double-breasted suits has not changed because of the fact that he was involved in sexual harassment settlements. He's just getting more complicated. It would be a huge mistake for him to change his style.
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