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post #331 of 1021
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Originally Posted by InHocSignio View Post

This is the sort of thread that would be closed immediately on responsibly moderated forum. Styleforum is great for the most part, there is tons of useful knowledge to be gleaned from here, but I think it could use a lot more citizen moderators to close poorly thought out threads & shut up mediocre posters. (The guys over at StackExchange, an amazing QA site, have thought hard and written much on how to create a rich self-policing community. Mean spirited, troll threads like this one are immediately closed by the vote of five trusted members and nipped the bud before they have time to spread their malignancy). Perhaps I'm wrong, perhaps this thread is useful. Surely some of the perfectly-dressed posters tee-heeing have offered advice on how to improve specific fit by replacing one or two items in it? I just flipped through this quickly, but I think I found one example of a member doing so; big props to him. Perhaps some general principles of long-lasting style are being elucidated by discussing how they are being violated in the various fits? Nah, that would be too hard. Particularly classless are those posted the blogs of fellow SF members, one of it which a senior member who has contributed much knowledge to the community; I definitely hope you all can take it as hard as you give it in WAYWT.

TL;DR: Me raising my tiny hand and saying I'm disgusted.

Don't go to the Dumb Threads forum, otherwise you might have a brain aneurysm, die at your desk and not have your body found until months later.
post #332 of 1021
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Originally Posted by Zeemon View Post

http://yannicksowhat.blogspot.de/

He's inspired by a simple plan and Justin Bieber, WTF!!!! I don't think we can do worse, you have won this thread.

Maybe the nice kid has a point though, these blogs are so obviously awful that there cannot be any criticism aside from "change your whole look" so it's just some mean spirited bashing in the spirit of "people of Walmart"
post #333 of 1021
TBH it's not really the bloggers themselves that I'm laughing at. I don't see any point in ridiculing anyone.

It's just the phenomenon of fashion blogging. Maybe it's something that happens with all blogged topics, but there's this weird thing that happens: rather than just sharing what they find interesting, what they like, etc etc., the blogs tend to become about teaching others.

It's like the people that try to take over from the tour guides telling you everything they know about the landmark you're visiting. Didn't you come here to see it for yourself, not to tell everyone what you know? Especially with something so subjective at fashion. There's not really much teaching you can do apart from the quality/construction pieces.

It's almost like they're not really interested in fashion, they just want to be an expert in something.
post #334 of 1021
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Originally Posted by brad-t View Post

Comparing styleforum to stack exchange is so fucking ridiculous. One is a discussion community for enthusiasts discussing highly subjective material and the other is a Q&A site.

Mommy, it's too hard! After all, it's not as if Stack Exchange has cooking & photography subsections, right? (The latter of which is the best place outside of large review sites to get information)

Saying that fashion is "highly subjective" is not a goddamn excuse. Like any artistic endeavor, fashion has both a technical side and subjective side, which merge into each other as a continuum. The fact is even Picasso learned how to draw classical nudes to classical proportions before revolutionizing abstract art. So, for example, taking photography as an analogy, one might teach a hopeless newb the Rule of Thirds and the Golden Ratio, instead of saying, "LAWL check out this crappy composition" as one of your 11,000 crappy posts. If one of these bad bloggers posted a fit with some garish mix say, a bright red shirt under a black blazer, I might use the little knowledge I've garnered and write: "This is a sin; one should generally wear lighter colored shirts to draw attention eventually upward to the face, and wear a color that matches the environment of the day. Why not try blue?" I've learned tons of useful things like this from the best posters on SF, such as LAGuy, and the best blogs, like PTO. I'm not an expert, but surely those tee-heeing here are, so I'm looking out for their sick fits on their top-flight blogs very soon.
post #335 of 1021
If you're into timeless fashion rules you're on the wrong side of styleforum.
post #336 of 1021
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Originally Posted by InHocSignio View Post

Mommy, it's too hard! After all, it's not as if Stack Exchange has cooking & photography subsections, right? (The latter of which is the best place outside of large review sites to get information)

Saying that fashion is "highly subjective" is not a goddamn excuse. Like any artistic endeavor, fashion has both a technical side and subjective side, which merge into each other as a continuum. The fact is even Picasso learned how to draw classical nudes to classical proportions before revolutionizing abstract art. So, for example, taking photography as an analogy, one might teach a hopeless newb the Rule of Thirds and the Golden Ratio, instead of saying, "LAWL check out this crappy composition" as one of your 11,000 crappy posts. If one of these bad bloggers posted a fit with some garish mix say, a bright red shirt under a black blazer, I might use the little knowledge I've garnered and write: "This is a sin; one should generally wear lighter colored shirts to draw attention eventually upward to the face, and wear a color that matches the environment of the day. Why not try blue?" I've learned tons of useful things like this from the best posters on SF, such as LAGuy, and the best blogs, like PTO. I'm not an expert, but surely those tee-heeing here are, so I'm looking out for their sick fits on their top-flight blogs very soon.

1) These people aren't posting here asking for advice, they have an awful blog somewhere and we're laughing at how awful it is. No advice can and will be given, we're not in contact.
2) There's a french saying that goes "la parole est d'argent mais le silence est d'or" (speech is silver but silence is gold), we are flooded with content so if you don't have anything to contribute don't start a stupid blog.
post #337 of 1021
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Originally Posted by cyc wid it View Post

If you're into timeless fashion rules you're on the wrong side of styleforum.

Sad you feel that way; I don't know enough to say anything conclusively, but I think the strongest interpretation of the statement you are implying is wrong. The aesthetic and purpose of MC & SW&D's fashion are different, but in facts lots of the principles are the same. Examples off the top of my head: most of the best fits in both fora use white or blue as the base shirt layer color. There's an emphasis in both fora in choosing quality leather and construction in shoes, whether or not it is G&G, CP, or Layer-0. There's a similar understanding and use in both fora that rougher textures make things more casual, and smoother things more formal. I could go on. MC likes to imagine that both the actual physical clothing and the rules it follows are "timeless", but one only has to read about the evolution of the Western suit, the adoption of tartan in jackets, and history of the shirt collar to understand that that is just another one of those self-serving rationalizations omnipresent in fashion.
post #338 of 1021

SW&D is quick to tear people down but equally fast to lift people up. Benes could post years of awkward yohji yamamoto fits and become this site's perpetually used toilet, but the moment he posts a good fit he will be given real feedback for it. Better that than the circlejerk you see at other sites like purseblog.

 

And the Picasso thing is a total false analogy, btw.

post #339 of 1021

Additionally, a few pages back someone whose blog had been posted came into this thread and asked for advice after he noticed a traffic increase.

 

Without this abrasive thread's existence he would never have realized his folly. 

post #340 of 1021
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Originally Posted by Distorbiant View Post

Additionally, a few pages back someone whose blog had been posted came into this thread and asked for advice after he noticed a traffic increase.

Without this abrasive thread's existence he would never have realized his folly. 

I'm sure I mentioned this before but my blog was posted here some time ago (more than a year ago, I think) and in terms of my "style" development it was the best thing that could have happened to me.
post #341 of 1021
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Originally Posted by InHocSignio View Post

Mommy, it's too hard! After all, it's not as if Stack Exchange has cooking & photography subsections, right? (The latter of which is the best place outside of large review sites to get information)

Saying that fashion is "highly subjective" is not a goddamn excuse. Like any artistic endeavor, fashion has both a technical side and subjective side, which merge into each other as a continuum. The fact is even Picasso learned how to draw classical nudes to classical proportions before revolutionizing abstract art. So, for example, taking photography as an analogy, one might teach a hopeless newb the Rule of Thirds and the Golden Ratio, instead of saying, "LAWL check out this crappy composition" as one of your 11,000 crappy posts. If one of these bad bloggers posted a fit with some garish mix say, a bright red shirt under a black blazer, I might use the little knowledge I've garnered and write: "This is a sin; one should generally wear lighter colored shirts to draw attention eventually upward to the face, and wear a color that matches the environment of the day. Why not try blue?" I've learned tons of useful things like this from the best posters on SF, such as LAGuy, and the best blogs, like PTO. I'm not an expert, but surely those tee-heeing here are, so I'm looking out for their sick fits on their top-flight blogs very soon.

I frequent another huge enthusiast forum for people pursuing an "artistic endeavor" (bass playing), and they strictly enforce a no negativity / no profanity rule. It's a wealth of information and it's a boring circle-jerk. Loose moderation is one of the reasons I come to SF more than any other forum.
post #342 of 1021
The shitty blogs skewered on here are pretty indefensible. They're run by people who have no expertise in the subject they cover. It would be like me offering technical advice on guitar playing just because I play the guitar sometimes. I'd say they spread more bad advice than good. I think they deserve to be ripped apart for making themselves authorities on something they're mostly clueless about. I come to this thread to gawk at their failures. It's mean-spirited, but if you put yourself in that position you should expect to have people point it out.
post #343 of 1021
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Originally Posted by pickpackpockpuck View Post

The shitty blogs skewered on here are pretty indefensible. They're run by people who have no expertise in the subject they cover. It would be like me offering technical advice on guitar playing just because I play the guitar sometimes. I'd say they spread more bad advice than good. I think they deserve to be ripped apart for making themselves authorities on something they're mostly clueless about. I come to this thread to gawk at their failures. It's mean-spirited, but if you put yourself in that position you should expect to have people point it out.

Guys like thestylewhatever won the esquire best dressed award and have been recognized as authorities. Still look like a buffoon but it would appear, as sad as it sounds, that some of the bloggers have the credentials needed to yap their stupid mouth about dressing.
post #344 of 1021
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Originally Posted by A Fellow Linguist View Post

It's a wealth of information and it's a boring circle-jerk.

I don't get this statement; to me at least, it seems self-contradictory. How can you be continuously learning, and find that boring? If by the addendum "circle jerk", you mean they are over praising some people's music, then that's not useful information, but disinformation. Is that your meaning? Well, I'll just point out, if I'm understanding you correctly, that there are different methods and styles to correct people, some better than others -- a fair appraisal is important, but tact and explanation go a long ways as well, no?

And of course those things are not legal obligations that any of the posters here must live up to; the French guy is quite right about that. But if I simultaneously say that laughing at people who put some work in to their style, terrible as it is, without any sort of correction makes for shitty and mean-spirited posters, my targets are similarly not owed any consideration by me and should just grin and bear it, right? In any case, how am I in anyway detracting from the already high noise level?
post #345 of 1021
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Originally Posted by InHocSignio View Post

How can you be continuously learning, and find that boring?
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Originally Posted by InHocSignio View Post

In any case, how am I in anyway detracting from the already high noise level?

I'm going to make a quick recommendation... drop the faux-intellectual persona. You're not going to get anywhere here like that, and you'll continue to post hilariously ignorant statements like the two above.

I wish you the best of luck on your journey of self-discovery and maturation, but unfortunately, I won't be joining you because as Casey so eloquently put it...

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