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You agreed with a person who could not even write a paragraph without contradicting himself.

the fuck?
post #77 of 418
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Originally Posted by Flambeur View Post

the fuck?

werd Flambeur.... wtf? I dunno! lol8[1].gif I agreed w/ your assessment completely....currently shopping my t14 score as well! Why did you decide against law school? Anything in particular you'd care to share?
post #78 of 418
To everyone who is taking the December exam this weekend, good luck.
post #79 of 418
All my apps went out over the weekend/yesterday. Time to play the waiting game.
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Results came out for the CA bar exam (taken back in July). There was a 54.8 percent pass rate. It had gone up during the mid-2000s (as high as 61 percent, IIRC), but now it's dropping back into what's considered the "normal pass rate" again.
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To everyone who is taking the December exam this weekend, good luck.

Stomach slowly starting to tighten... oh well. Nothing like taking the most important test of my life on my 25th birthday...
post #82 of 418
What bar exam is in December? I thought they were all in February.
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Originally Posted by Ambulance Chaser View Post

What bar exam is in December? I thought they were all in February.

LSAT
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Originally Posted by El Argentino View Post

LSAT

Ahh, the memories. Don't panic if you bomb one of the sections. That may be the "experimental" section.
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Originally Posted by Ambulance Chaser View Post

Ahh, the memories. Don't panic if you bomb one of the sections. That may be the "experimental" section.

Lots of helpful LSAT info over at top-law-schools. GL Argentino. Experimental is usually one of the first 3 sections.
post #86 of 418
By the way, there was just a recent article based on recent academic research stating that in general, intelligence tests are very much learnable and it's possible to improve one's score.

Just saying.
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Took the LSAT this morning. Feel liked I totally owned it. Will find out in 3 weeks.
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Ugh so glad I'm done with standardized tests. Logic games were fun though
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There are two options:

1. you get into a top 14 school. If you get into one of these schools then you go there regardless. The legal world is extremely snobby and credential conscious, so if you go to one of these schools it will make your career a lot easier. It will give you a shot at "BIG LAW" and even if you miss that shot, you will still have more opportunities if you go to one of these schools.

2. (or the CTGuy choice) if you are not smart enough/able to go top 14, then I will tell you what I would do if I could do it over again. I would look for a state university that is nationally known. This sounds stupid, but a school that is nationally known even having for a great basketball team fits this criteria. I would chose one in an area where cost of living is moderately low, while still having access to some civilization where you will be able to find part time jobs/clerkships/associateships.

My post law school experience has been that guys I have worked with who went to some subpar state law schools do just as well as someone like me who went to a subpar private school (and they have less debt!!!!). As dumb as it is, plenty of managers aren't looking at the rankings that closely. They know UNC, UNLV, etc because they are national names and they assume you didn't go to University of Phoenix or American Somoa Law. In many ways you are better off than your competition that went to an unknown, better ranked private school. On the upside you will have less debt if you went state school, even if you are not in state. This may seem like not a big deal now, but believe me it is incredibly important later. Same reasoning for the cost of living. The further your dollars go for cost of living the better. You will borrow less and have a better quality of life while in school, which I think leads to less stress and better grades.

Finally, while I say go someplace low cost, I wouldn't go to North Dakota. You'll probably want part time opportunities, clerkships, etc while in school (I did) and you need some kind of civilization nearby.

I know the standard advice is to go to school where you want to practice, but I just don't agree any more. I think the landscape of things has really changed, especially in this economy. Your own personal/family contacts are WAY more important than any contacts you make at school.
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Just posting here for posterity. If you are considering law school - DON'T. I don't need the competition and there are already too many of you young punks being pumped out everyday. You will not be able to pay back your loans and you won't be able to beat me in a jury trial. None of you are any good. I was pretty bad when I started but I wasn't as bad as most of you. Go study accounting or some such crap instead. Or go into tax law. I have no desire to bore myself to death with that garbage so go right ahead and take over that area of expertise.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2011/11/law_schools_should_pay_students_to_quit_.html
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A crisis is threatening legal education. In constant dollars, tuition at private law schools nearly tripled over the last quarter century. Many a graduate faces a six-figure debt and can’t find a job paying enough to service that debt. Especially troubling are allegations that some schools admit students they know are unlikely to repay their loans—leaving taxpayers (who guarantee some of these loans) holding the bag.

The problem is in part that these schools lie about employment numbers and pay. I also think the legal landscape is changing drastically, especially in this economy. The majority of lawyers I know are either BIGLAW or struggling to make ends meet- there is not a ton of middle ground. Personally I have fought to pay my loans on time for the last two years and I wonder how some people are able to do it on less than I make. I think the mid-sized firm is disappearing for a variety of reasons, but this is part of the problem along with too many people going into law.
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