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post #391 of 418
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Originally Posted by Kid Nickels View Post

Princeton only uses LSAC licensed actual LSAT exams... so how do they suck? patch[1].gif They're the real tests and questions.

It might have changed since I did it. I spent a bunch of money on those books and found them to be useless, and their tests to be pretty far from the real tests. The only thing that worked for me was scoring as many of the actual tests as possible and just grinding them out on a daily basis.
post #392 of 418
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Originally Posted by munchausen View Post

It might have changed since I did it. I spent a bunch of money on those books and found them to be useless, and their tests to be pretty far from the real tests. The only thing that worked for me was scoring as many of the actual tests as possible and just grinding them out on a daily basis.

well I completely agree....I did the same. I don't know when you used their books so not to be argumentative but I know for a fact that for at least the last 10 years they have paid a significant amount of money to LSAC to license the actual questions... and the diagnostic tests are the REAL tests 100% minus the experimental sections....
post #393 of 418
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Originally Posted by Kid Nickels View Post

well I completely agree....I did the same. I don't know when you used their books so not to be argumentative but I know for a fact that for at least the last 10 years they have paid a significant amount of money to LSAC to license the actual questions... and the diagnostic tests are the REAL tests 100% minus the experimental sections....

Eh. You sound like you know what you're talking about. It's entirely possible I was just using Kaplan and that I got them confused with Princeton.
post #394 of 418
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Originally Posted by munchausen View Post

Eh. You sound like you know what you're talking about. It's entirely possible I was just using Kaplan and that I got them confused with Princeton.

no worries... like I said not arguing... but my buddy in college taught for them and I got all their shit for free so I was privy to some "inside" info... I scored over 99%-tile myself and I'd agree that KrAPLAN prety much sucks as well! nod[1].gif
post #395 of 418
Kaplan is fine. I took a Kaplan course. The tests and questions were previous LSAT questions. The practice material was identical to the actual test.
post #396 of 418
Well fwiw, I didn't take any of the classes, so I can't speak to whether or not they are worth it. The books that I bought at the bookstore, however, were IMO pretty useless, especially in comparison to taking real tests.
post #397 of 418
Out of curiosity, what would you guys say is a minimum GPA required to get into a T14 law school? I'm not looking to apply at the moment, but am trying to keep my options open for the future. I'm hovering at around a 3.85 right now, but am looking to improve it a bit.
post #398 of 418
that would be about average.
post #399 of 418
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And your GPA is second to LSAT performance. Get that high enough, and you open doors.
post #400 of 418
Thanks for the thoughts, guys!
post #401 of 418
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Originally Posted by sns23 View Post

that would be about average.

Dude 3.85 is close to the median of Harvard.

3.7-3.8 is roughly the medians for t14 schools not named HYS... Some schools seem to favor LSAT over GPA and some vice versa. IIRC, Columbia is roughly like a 3.72/172 median while Berkeley is like 3.8/168 median.
post #402 of 418
jeez... with a 3.85 just rape the LSAT and you'll be fine. nod[1].gif
post #403 of 418
I taught at Kaplan and my highest official LSAT score was only in the 95th percentile. Not knocking it...because I personally know a few of my students scored in the 99th but you might not get as effective a teacher as me biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by ConcernedParent View Post

Dude 3.85 is close to the median of Harvard.
3.7-3.8 is roughly the medians for t14 schools not named HYS... Some schools seem to favor LSAT over GPA and some vice versa. IIRC, Columbia is roughly like a 3.72/172 median while Berkeley is like 3.8/168 median.

Exactly. Just like i said. You would be an "average" student there. Not top of the pack, not back of the pack.
post #405 of 418
Also, a 3.85 w/ a 166 gets you a shot at the T14. Above a 170 will get you money at a T14. Above a 175 and you're looking at a lock at one of CCN. The absolute key to law school is minimize debt IMO. Even at the very best law schools, students will end up at the bottom (the exception being the law schools that don't have grades - Y, S, Berkeley).
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