The first generation of RRLs are notoriously off in their waist size. If you are going to buy them on ebay, ask the seller to measure it for you. The first gen have these types of tags:

The second generation is true to size. I tried on a pair at the RL store and they were as tagged. The second generation has these types of tags (pictured is a non-dry pair):

As for the fit, they are advertised as slim bootcuts (most of them are, some are straight slim) but i wouldnt call it neither slim nor bootcut. It is a much more generous cut than an APC NS and the bootcut is very slight. I am not a skinny guy by any means, but you can see how they fit me in these pictures:


They did stretch an inch or so in the waist, but all denim does that. They are sanforized, so shrinking was minimal after i soaked them. The color and denim itself is amazing. It almost has this asphaltish hue when they are brand new: (this picture was taken at night with a flash, which will definitely alter the true color)

this is a pair from another member on this board (or SuFu, i cant remember) after 12 months and 12 washes...

as my pair continue to age, i appreciate these jeans more and more. its unfortunate that some people look down on them because they are so cheap on ebay. they are definitely a great pair of jeans and i'd highly recommend them. some more pics (from SuFu):


i dont know if this was the sort of info you wanted, but if you have any other questions, ask.
