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Church's—why bother?

post #1 of 22
10/25/11 at 9:25pm
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So I realize now, looking at them, that one of my pairs of church's are corrected grain. This really begs a big question. If they're going to use crap leather that rockport and kenneth cole use, why both welting shoes instead of cementing. Why even bother making them in england. Clearly the appeal of church's has stayed even though the quality has decreased.

What are, if any, the advantages for the consumer (not for Church's) of CG leather? Is it waterproof?
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post #2 of 22
10/25/11 at 9:43pm
this has already been beaten to death.
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post #3 of 22
10/25/11 at 9:48pm
The main store in Sydney tells me punters love it because they don't have to polish their shoes...nuff said.
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post #4 of 22
10/25/11 at 11:24pm
That's why you buy Cheaneys instead.
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post #5 of 22
10/26/11 at 4:49am
This is why I buy Vass.
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post #6 of 22
10/26/11 at 5:29am
interesting - i just popped into their store on Regents over lunch a few minutes ago and i was surprised (read disappointed) at the quality of their current line. i was really looking forward to picking up a couple pairs, but i am now second guessing myself.
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post #7 of 22
10/26/11 at 6:07am
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This is why I buy Vass.

Keep on keeping on then!

Maybe with you out of the picture with English bespoke shoe makers, the wait time will go down across the board. bounce2.gif
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interesting - i just popped into their store on Regents over lunch a few minutes ago and i was surprised (read disappointed) at the quality of their current line. i was really looking forward to picking up a couple pairs, but i am now second guessing myself.

Same here. Looks like they buy their leather from Bostonian. lol8[1].gif
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post #8 of 22
10/26/11 at 8:23am
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Looks like they buy their leather from Bostonian. lol8[1].gif

ouch. hate to hear that. I have an old pair of church's that are great quality and great leather...also have some old bostonians that are great leather....really sad to hear quality is going to the shitter.
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post #9 of 22
10/26/11 at 8:50am
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I'm not just complaining, Im actually genuinely curious regarding their choice to welt crap leather to well built soles and to even have them made by hand in england. It would be like having a pair of Weejuns resoled by Edward Green's cobblers.
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post #10 of 22
10/26/11 at 9:02am
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I'm not just complaining, Im actually genuinely curious regarding their choice to welt crap leather to well built soles and to even have them made by hand in england. It would be like having a pair of Weejuns resoled by Edward Green's cobblers.

Prada does strange things to a man...
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post #11 of 22
10/26/11 at 9:40am
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Prada does strange things to a man...


Hahah, yeah. It makes me upset.
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post #12 of 22
10/26/11 at 11:39am
Church's do offer the same shoe in polished binder and calfskin for the same price; therefore, giving the customer the choice of whether they want polished binder or not.

As for the use of polished binder, It is not something Prada introduced; I have a pair of pre-Prada Church's in polished binder. Polished binder does not always means inferior quality leather.
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post #13 of 22
10/26/11 at 1:22pm
Are you sure they are CG? It's taking the piss. I don't like many Church's shoes that much either.

To be honest, I think you're only really safe with C&J Handgrade and above. I've had issues with other maker's shoes e.g. Tricker's. I also don't like the fact that Tricker's charge £185 for a re-sole. If Church's are taking the piss, Tricker's are pushing you into a swimming pool of it.
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post #14 of 22
10/26/11 at 8:33pm
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Prada does strange things to a man...

Now I can't help but wonder what sort of strange things Prada_Ferragamo does to men.
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post #15 of 22
11/1/11 at 9:55am
I have a pair of Church's consul in "regular" calf leather that I like a lot. Great business shoe, getting resoled now.

I have been looking for a black wingtip, and I have seen this shoe in person many times

http://leffot.com/2010/09/09/grafton/

I'm looking at the black "polished binder." I really like the substantial but dressy look of this Grafton model.

My question is: what is exactly wrong with the "polished" binder leather that Church's uses in many of its high end shoes? I understand the leather may be "corrected," but I am talking purely about characteristics apparent to the wearer (flexibility and durability of the shoe, how it breathes, how it shines, etc). Church's seems to use both regular calf and binder interchangeably in its shoes and charges the same amount, so it seems like these binder shoes aren't meant to be lower quality.
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