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post #31 of 43
Software developers are always in demand - if you have any friends who are in the industry they can ramp you up in a few months. I trained an guy in 4 months with a couple of nights a week.
post #32 of 43
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post #33 of 43
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Good topic. Do you just not want to go to college or is it because of financial reasons? One of the reasons I've joined the Air Force is for helping pay for college. The actual money you make (if you're enlisted) isn't very good, but all the benefits and free cost-of-living, training, job experience, etc you get through it are worthwhile.
One friend of mine is a floorhand on an oil rig in ND, he makes good money and he didn't even graduate HS.
Also, look into the railroad as a conductor perhaps. Idk if that's an option in NY though.

both, im living alone in ny since i moved from l.a (originally from ny though) I found a job at allsaints but im still looking for options.
post #34 of 43
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Originally Posted by Big Pun View Post

Good topic. Do you just not want to go to college or is it because of financial reasons? One of the reasons I've joined the Air Force is for helping pay for college. The actual money you make (if you're enlisted) isn't very good, but all the benefits and free cost-of-living, training, job experience, etc you get through it are worthwhile.
One friend of mine is a floorhand on an oil rig in ND, he makes good money and he didn't even graduate HS.
Also, look into the railroad as a conductor perhaps. Idk if that's an option in NY though.

both, im living alone in ny since i moved from l.a (originally from ny though) I found a job at allsaints but im still looking for options.

If it makes you feel any better, I went to college and never found a job, its been about 1 year and 7 months since...
post #35 of 43

I'm a high school teacher, but I also waited until I was 25 to go to college.  I've worked in a variety of jobs before teaching (both before and after college).  What I tell my students is that you don't have to go to college, but if you want a comfortable life you do need some education past high school.  You really need to learn a trade or skill.


One on-the-job option is sales.  If you are good at it, sales is one of the few jobs where you can actually get rich working for someone else.  I would avoid car sales or most retail, except as a possible step to something else.  That said, you can do well in certain high end retail sales positions.  The fields where people I know have been most successful are business to business sales of various kinds, yacht sales, and real estate.  I still might go back to real estate someday myself part-time (it was a lot of fun when I did it, and after a couple years building my business I can make more doing it part-time than I do in my full-time teaching gig).  Financial advising, banking, and other financial related sales can make you a good income once you've had some experience and added some certifications.


The military is a great way to go.  While the initial base pay if you are enlisted isn't great, after about 4-5 years it is pretty decent.  It can be especially nice when you add in money beyond your salary: a non-taxed food and housing allowance, and the housing allowance is geared towards the area where you live and is enough for a decent one or two bedroom apartment and utilities.  You can retire with a pension in 20 years, there are all kinds of training and college options, and the benefits are terrific.

 

Both of the previous options are things I did in the past.  I do wish someone talked up the next one for me: vocational training.  There are some skills that won't necessarily make you very much money, but some are gold.  I have a former student who did welding and now at 21 makes good money and owns a few motorcycles, including a Harley, and several classic cars (one of his hobbies is buying old classic 1940-60s cars that need some work, fixing them up and then keeping some and selling others).  With welding, HVAC, and many computer certifications you can do better than you would with most college majors.  Some require formal training such as a year or two in a vocational school or a  multi-year internship/apprenticeship program (which is paid), and others (mainly the computer certifications) can be done through self-study online and by reading books.

 

Good luck.

post #36 of 43
Has anyone mentioned airconditioniing repair yet?
post #37 of 43
Just go down to Occupy Wall Street and bitch about not having a job. I understand they have free meals and tents.
post #38 of 43
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Can you sell? I know a few guys with HS degrees or a bit of college and they did alright selling stuff like copiers, cars, or services.
+1 to swinging a hammer. Oil gas industry. Loading trucks. See if you're not too late for crab fishing season. Etc. There's always the military although I hear they're getting tons of recruits these days. Your best asset may be a fit body that can bust hump.

my cousin sells boats and has no education. he's making 100k/yr. Of course, he has owned them since he was a kid and knows a ton about boats, so that helps, but if you've got that ability to sell you can make good money doing something.

The trades are good money too, especially if you save your cash and eventually run your own crew. It's not the most pleasant job, but plumbers never have to look for work. Electricians always seem to be in demand as well. I've met a couple builders that started off as regular construction workers and are now millionaires. With strong work ethic and the right attitude there are still lots of ways to make money w/o college.
post #39 of 43
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my cousin sells boats and has no education. he's making 100k/yr. Of course, he has owned them since he was a kid and knows a ton about boats, so that helps, but if you've got that ability to sell you can make good money doing something.
The trades are good money too, especially if you save your cash and eventually run your own crew. It's not the most pleasant job, but plumbers never have to look for work. Electricians always seem to be in demand as well. I've met a couple builders that started off as regular construction workers and are now millionaires. With strong work ethic and the right attitude there are still lots of ways to make money w/o college.

well said. i am looking into a welding program so hopefully its something that can get me going. I also have some friends that came from serbia to do petty cab tours around central park. He told me he made 15k in 5 months.
post #40 of 43
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and its all cash btw.
post #41 of 43

Have you ever considered fashion careers?

 

post #42 of 43

Sales if you want big kid money

post #43 of 43
Interesting article about a lot of skilled jobs (many of which don't require college degree though specialist training) that are in high demand but difficult to fill these days: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203707504577010080035955166.html?mod=WSJ_business_LeadStoryCollection (subscription required: I'll try to copy and paste on monday)
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