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post #91 of 147
There was more to that receipt that meets the eye but, say no more.. wink.gif
post #92 of 147
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Originally Posted by Quarks View Post

I absolutely cannot believe the 90% discount. I wonder what kind of damage would that do to regular customers who pay full price. I would call it 'bullshit' as well but now I am trying to come to terms having seen the receipt.

I still don't believe that they invite their best customers to that sale though. Im sure that was a friends and family event. Nobody in business would do such a thing. This I am sure of.
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Originally Posted by Man Of Lint View Post

There was more to that receipt that meets the eye but, say no more.. wink.gif

lurker[1].gif Im listening.
post #93 of 147
good thread...
post #94 of 147
While I agree they should at least know where things are from, you also must remember that the vast majority of people you mentioned above (the casual $50k+ big tymers) don't know or care about the production and processes we obsess over on SF. Most of the dudes that have the money to spend that much don't have the time, let alone the care, to learn about how and where items are made. This is where the SA really makes the difference. Convincing these people that something looks good, fits well, is cool, is necessary, etc is what being a SA is all about. This is the reason so many people, even those that consider themselves "fashionable" or "stylish," still have personal stylists.

As tragic as it might be I'd be willing to bet that the vast majority of those willing to spend that much are doing so not because of quality, tradition or style. Instead they are trying to one-up their friends or enabling themselves to brag about how nice something is because of how much it costs.[/quote]

I think you hit the nail on the head - valid points.
post #95 of 147
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Originally Posted by cwh812 View Post

Are Tom Brady and Brad Pitt secret TF salesmen? This whole acting and football player shtick is a ruse to buy more TF suits?
In all seriousness, if someone has that much money and they don't know how to dress isn't saying Tom Brady and Brad Pitt wear this sh!t enough to get someone into one of their suits?

Its not just that. Not everyone is that shallow, especially males.

Some SA's have to become buddy's with the the wives - convince them that their husband would look exceptionally dashing in a TF suit. Some SA's may be friends with business owners or with someone in their family.

I doubt simply going to a person and telling them "Tom Brady wears this suit, you have a lot of money, it would look great on you, come on in and lets see what we can get you fitted into."

There is a realism to it, let's say you have a client, and he has a daughter who is getting married - your client wants to outfit him in the best suit/tux possible. As the SA you need to know this, you need to be checking up - without being annoying- and then following up with something like, "Mr. xxxx its so great to hear about your daughter, I think it would perfect if your son-in-law looked his best for your daughter, why don't you swing by with him this next weekend I can save a few suits in his size...?"

There are endless examples of how selling works, its really an opportunistic skill and requires an etiquette and ability to freely speak with people without coming off as annoying and desperate.
post #96 of 147
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Originally Posted by SpooPoker View Post

I still don't believe that they invite their best customers to that sale though. Im sure that was a friends and family event. Nobody in business would do such a thing. This I am sure of.

You might very well be right. But im just passing on information that i heard from people that work there. Im now one of their customers, but i would only get invited to the 50% sale, and according to my friend who used to work there its only for their top 10 now at their last one he still helped us get stuff but we were not allowed to go in for the actual sample sale. Once again you might very well be right but im just passing on info i got from a source who really has nothing to gain from telling me this.
post #97 of 147
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Originally Posted by Quarks View Post

I absolutely cannot believe the 90% discount. I wonder what kind of damage would that do to regular customers who pay full price. I would call it 'bullshit' as well but now I am trying to come to terms having seen the receipt.
Wouldn't you reckon that they are selling at a loss at that price? Just pissed that I paid full price for the bags now.... grrrrrrrrrrr.......
No wonder the spread of items over ebay. Jeez, I would be a kid in a candy store & would spend loads if I were there.
Too bad I'm at the wrong side of the globe.
That is the first I have seen with 'Made in China' TF suit. Even the milanese buttonhole is made in China? or 80% made in China?
Amazing stuff. Speechless. Tom Ford has spoken before about China, almost seemingly hinting that some (or most) of his items are made in China.
You never know these days, these secrets are heavily guarded... or so it seems.

When i went in for the sample sale i asked if they were selling at a loss, and apparently they were going to burn the stuff anyway, so them selling it at those prices was just a little extra income. Im not sure how business wise this works maybe they can write it off as expenses? As for that work suit i posted, im not sure if the milanese button hole is also made in China, but like i said in an earlier post if you compare the work suits (made in china) to the ones that they actually sell (italy/switzerland) you can really feel the difference between them, both in the feeling and when you are wearing it.
post #98 of 147
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Originally Posted by SpooPoker View Post

I still don't believe that they invite their best customers to that sale though. Im sure that was a friends and family event. Nobody in business would do such a thing. This I am sure of..
Btw if you are correct and it is a friends and family event it would not just be a 90% off sale. it would be 90% plus and additional 50% off of that because of the employee discount.
post #99 of 147
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Originally Posted by SpooPoker View Post

I still don't believe that they invite their best customers to that sale though. Im sure that was a friends and family event. Nobody in business would do such a thing. This I am sure of.

I know an acquaintaince who has been very close with a SA at Madison Boutique since he has been making big purchases on suits & MTM shirts. Never has he ever mentioned on discounted items, maybe he didn't spend enough or maybe he is zippin' his lips. Or maybe, this never happened. I agree with you. This is not good for business, and I wouldn't think TF would ever do this. Sales for VIPs, yes of course - I have heard of that. But sales at 90% off retail will be pissin' regular buyers off.

But then again recently, someone (UK seller) sold a brand new TF croc shoes size 11 or 12 for USD$600-ish buy-it-now? It seems like the seller has no clue the retail for the shoes based on the listing information. What the hell is going on? LOL.

Also being mindful that rental at Madison boutique isn't cheap, reportedly costing $XXmillion per annum. Plus having boutiques at different parts of the world would, to a certain extent, would put a strain on overall budget. Not forgetting adverts, etc. Hence, the need for sale. But what about the logic selling items to Century 21?
post #100 of 147
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Originally Posted by jeff13007 View Post

When i went in for the sample sale i asked if they were selling at a loss, and apparently they were going to burn the stuff anyway, so them selling it at those prices was just a little extra income. Im not sure how business wise this works maybe they can write it off as expenses? As for that work suit i posted, im not sure if the milanese button hole is also made in China, but like i said in an earlier post if you compare the work suits (made in china) to the ones that they actually sell (italy/switzerland) you can really feel the difference between them, both in the feeling and when you are wearing it.

Well, I am quite dumfounded that they actually were planning to 'burn the stuff'. Reeeally? Being based in Australia, we often get last season's items while the rest of the world are in tune with the current season. I think TF would be better off sending last season's to Australia since we have a specialty men's department store that carry his stuff, than to incinerate them. Right now, in Australia, believe it or not, we still have items from 2 seasons ago - at full retail. Sure does not make economical sense 'burning' the items. Does Louis Vuitton incinerate previous season's items?
post #101 of 147
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Originally Posted by Quarks View Post

Well, I am quite dumfounded that they actually were planning to 'burn the stuff'. Reeeally? Being based in Australia, we often get last season's items while the rest of the world are in tune with the current season. I think TF would be better off sending last season's to Australia since we have a specialty men's department store that carry his stuff, than to incinerate them. Right now, in Australia, believe it or not, we still have items from 2 seasons ago - at full retail. Sure does not make economical sense 'burning' the items. Does Louis Vuitton incinerate previous season's items?

yes they do
post #102 of 147
twenty years ago I worked at a Versace boutique. Standard discount was 50% off all items. The real score happened when we got rid of merch to the jobbers. I would then pick up things at 85 to 90 off, iirc.
also worked at another high end store in which the discount was also 50%. If you were there long enough, the owner would let you order suits for cost when he put it his order.

another thing about versace-i remember me and the other guy on the the mens floor would come in in the morning, choose a tie from the rack, wear it all day, then return it to the rack for sale.
post #103 of 147
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Originally Posted by SpooPoker View Post

They give them the suits to wear for free.
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do you say this as a fact from industry knowledge, or this is your belief.
post #104 of 147
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Originally Posted by bullethead View Post

another thing about versace-i remember me and the other guy on the the mens floor would come in in the morning, choose a tie from the rack, wear it all day, then return it to the rack for sale.

Tony or Gilles?
post #105 of 147
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Originally Posted by eddievddr10 View Post

yes they do

That make sense. I had a near death experience & I was sure the tunnel was in graphite damier.
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