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post #136 of 147
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Originally Posted by cwh812 View Post

I think you guys are pulling our legs here. Selling $10 million worth of clothes in one year? That is approx. $27K per day. I understand you might have a good day where you might clear $100k with a high roller, but to say that happens once a week is just unbelievable. I can give you a couple million or maybe even $5 million, but $10 million is just ridiculous.

Please read what I wrote then consider formulating a response that is relevant.

Eustace, this may be mind blowing to you, but highly educated professionals are not the only people on the planet making good salaries. As mentioned in my experience 10m in sales is not typical, but not every doctor makes 500K and not trader at GS makes 2M, but it's not impossible.
post #137 of 147
Of course though 10 million is really, really a lot. It's truly exceptional, It's the most I have heard of, but 2-3 million in sales for "regular" staff at a high end store sounds about right.
post #138 of 147
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Originally Posted by SkinnyGoomba View Post


Eustace, this may be mind blowing to you, but highly educated professionals are not the only people on the planet making good salaries. As mentioned in my experience 10m in sales is not typical, but not every doctor makes 500K and not trader at GS makes 2M, but it's not impossible.

 

Not my point at all, but nice work twisting my words to suit yourself.

post #139 of 147
Sorry, I reread your posts. The tone of this thread in general is raising my blood pressure. The bottom line to my point is that, yes, these people can make a good living and it's not comparable to the part-time department store job that most are comparing it to.
post #140 of 147
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

do you say this as a fact from industry knowledge, or this is your belief.

This is a fact for some same band boutiques, though policies vary depend on the "vibe" of the boutique. Some boutiques require that their SAs wear the signature pieces, and essentially issue a uniform, which changes out frequently, and which the SAs get to keep. Others have clothing allowance, but are still required to mix in the signature pieces and wear the clothing in a particular manner and fit.
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post #142 of 147
Retail SA gets clothing allowance every few months/season(about once every 3/4 months). There could be a probation period (RL stores 3 months) where you will not receive any clothing allowance. The stores wants you to be a model for their cloths.
post #143 of 147
I can assure you I make nothing close to a doctor, dentist, etc.....They are all my clients, but I do not make nearly as much as them.

There is also no one selling 10 million a year, out of any store in the U.S with any sort of consistency. Perhaps an SA hit that in the boom year, by luck....Say a guy at harry winston who happened to get multiple million dollar sales or a personal shopper with a fantastic book? The number of SA's hitting 5 million a year in sales in the US has got to be less then 25 total.

Hermes is pulled commission so the wall street store does not do nearly as well as the Madison store, so they might have one SA doing 2 mil, and 3 or 4 doing between 1 and 1.5 million...Either way their hourly + bonus from the commission is probably going to top out at 100k, at most.

I have had friends work at various tom ford stores, I can't say what their pay structure is like, and the price point is very high, But again, I think a top sales associate there is selling 3 mil a year tops, again, I won't say how much they make off that.

My passion is clothing. I spend a large percentage of my income on it. I made more money 7+ years ago in the IT industry than i do today, and it has allowed me to spend more on clothing than most of my peers. I am the only one in my line of work that has this story, the poster who commented that you meet a lot of people who migrate to this line of work have family money or married well is some what correct.

The stores will never pay enough to shop there. I've worked at a few stores, and the bottom line is with generous discounts you can usually shop there, but for the average joe who has bills to pay and doesn't have the benefit of a wealthy spouse or parents to contribute, it is hard to buy a lot of the products. Some stores pretty much have to provide a uniform as they can't risk a sales person showing up in less than fashionable clothing attempting to sell suiting or high priced jewelry.
post #144 of 147
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Originally Posted by SkinnyGoomba View Post

Sorry, I reread your posts. The tone of this thread in general is raising my blood pressure. The bottom line to my point is that, yes, these people can make a good living and it's not comparable to the part-time department store job that most are comparing it to.

+1

The Nordstrom nearby has more than a dozen selling $1 mi+l/year. Those in Women's shoes/salon shoes for example make 10% base commission plus bonus commission for beating goals, profit sharing etc. They make a good 150k+ at least.
post #145 of 147

I am a former TOM FORD employee and you are given 1 complete suit jacket, one vest, two suit pants, two shirts and two ties along with one pair of cufflinks and shoes per season/every 6 months. Yes, the suits they provide to staff are essentially off the rack, but in reality they are they same cut as those sold in the boutique just made in foreign Asian countries to cut uniform costs and prevent employees from re-selling when no longer employed with TOM FORD.

 

To be clear, all TOM FORD products proudly have a "Made in Italy" label while it's identical uniform counterparts given to staff appear the same but the jacket, vest and shirts will all be made in Asian rather than Italy. While the shoes and ties will be authentic from the boutique Made in Italy products, they will come in generic white packaging to discourage employee's from re-selling the accessories. 

 

Please let me know if you have any further questions. I have been in this business a long time and will happily share my insight with an inquisitive mind. 

 

Also, all employee's at TF receive the same uniform, regardless of position. The only exception at GM's and the Director of Stores who receive rather generous clothing allowances. 

post #146 of 147
Are you still in retail? Which TF location?
post #147 of 147
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Originally Posted by Edge89 View Post

I was in Tom Ford in Vegas a little while ago, trying on a suit that was way too expensive for me, and the sales associate I was talking to said it's the same one he wears. I didn't even bother looking at the price tag, but I know his suits at around 5k and up, and I think most places require you to wear their stuff if you work there. Even with something like a 50% discount, it seems unlikely that a new employee would spend $2000 dollars on a suit when he got the job. So how does a new employee get himself decked out in some of the most expensive menswear there is?

Often they sacrifice a lot to wear clothes like that even at discount, I remember when I first started out I was paid 11,000 pounds a year to work in a designer store (year 2000) but I still put in 1k (maybe more) to look the part because I wanted to look professional and it was expected. Still looking back it was quite exploitative.

Other designers may actually give clothes away or some stores may have very good commission/salary, at a store like channel a sales associate can make a very comfortable middle-class living.
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