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post #46 of 80
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Originally Posted by texaschili View Post

Why are you confident he was homeless? The person was a poor white low socio-economic class male in his 20s.
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Originally Posted by Saturdays View Post

You sir are clueless.
He was drunk, angry, and homeless. He was threatened by you - but rather he is threatened by everyone. I hope you don't feel that special, because that occurrence definitely does not make you.
I've met angry drunk homeless men, and they quickly turn their frowns upside down once they see me. I even had a conversation about Pele and soccer with a homeless guy on the street a few weeks ago. He should not feel threatened, but rather welcoming. Most people that see me suited up, or dressed nicely in any setting usually comment, "Lookin' good Saturdays", or "Did they rip you out of a magazine?" etc.. I'm not trying to show off - you shouldn't be communicating a threat, but rather inviting amusement and livelihood amongst people. People should enjoy looking at you - and that is what dressing nicely brings to the table.
So instead of obviously mocking the homeless men, turn his anger to light, respond with, "Oh no me? A job.. you must be joking, I'm the driver" or "What, seriously? I decided to shave and now everyone thinks i'm working."
Anyway, lets pray a homeless guy doesn't shank you for having a dick aura.

How did I mock this man? He came at me to yell at me in a tirade and that is me mocking him? I mocked him by existing?
post #47 of 80
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Originally Posted by Saturdays View Post


well that makes his actions worse...the middle class should not be threatened by him. Its the wrong image to convey irregardless.


"Irregardless" is not a word.  The word is "regardless".

 

If you're going to go around calling people clueless, get one yourself first.

 

ccm

post #48 of 80

As I like to wear brightly colored work shirts I do get some looks but I don't think they are 'dirty' looks - hopefully it is people looking because they think I look good but they could be thinking I look a complete idiot! Whatever the reason it's not worth worrying about - particularly if it people you have never met before and will never meet again.

post #49 of 80
Only the worst accuse others of thinking they're "better'n me". The correct response here in TX is to reveal your shoulder holster and suggest they move on before they get hurt.
post #50 of 80
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Originally Posted by coffeecupman View Post

"Irregardless" is not a word.  The word is "regardless".

 

If you're going to go around calling people clueless, get one yourself first.

 

ccm


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irregardless - I mean maybe its incorrect, but at least dictionaries acknowledge its existence.

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Originally Posted by Sanguis Mortuum View Post

And what image would that be? Some people are so insecure they will feel threatened by anyone they perceive to be more successful than themselves. Are you suggesting we all dress like total slobs to avoid this?

No, just don't think of yourself as someone better without knowing what consequences led another to his current state.
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Originally Posted by texaschili View Post

Why are you confident he was homeless? The person was a poor white low socio-economic class male in his 20s.

Sorry I originally thought he was, someone corrected me already..

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Originally Posted by texaschili View Post

How did I mock this man? He came at me to yell at me in a tirade and that is me mocking him? I mocked him by existing?

Didn't say you mocked him, just saying your attitude about your clothing is very arrogant. I just think you are taking a drunk out of context, and thinking that by dressing in a blazer makes you threatening to him, even though possibly everything is threatening to him. He wasn't threatened by you - rather the idea of you.

Also, I just think its insecure, arrogant and weird for you to think, or feel the need to threaten the middle class. The fact that you have to define him as a 'low socio-economic class male in his 20s' is enough for me to think that.
post #51 of 80
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Originally Posted by Saturdays View Post

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irregardless - I mean maybe its incorrect, but at least dictionaries acknowledge its existence.
No, just don't think of yourself as someone better without knowing what consequences led another to his current state.
Sorry I originally thought he was, someone corrected me already..
Didn't say you mocked him, just saying your attitude about your clothing is very arrogant. I just think you are taking a drunk out of context, and thinking that by dressing in a blazer makes you threatening to him, even though possibly everything is threatening to him. He wasn't threatened by you - rather the idea of you.
Also, I just think its insecure, arrogant and weird for you to think, or feel the need to threaten the middle class. The fact that you have to define him as a 'low socio-economic class male in his 20s' is enough for me to think that.

From what I've read on this thread, the OP was not the aggressor but was doing his own thing when someone else, drunk or otherwise, attacked him. It might not have escalated to a physical confrontation but it was an unprovoked attack nonetheless. He has every right to not be happy about the situation. It is also human nature to make judgements based on what you see in front of you. After all, didn't this start due to the other person doing just that to the OP? The mark of class is being able to adjust your opinions of someone or something when presented with evidence contrary to your initial impressions.

Also, I fail to see how he has in any way threatened the middle class. I don't recall any blue blood statements like "if the guy couldn't afford a bespoke suit he isn't worth anything". And before anyone says anything about that statement, it was supposed to be an extreme example. Anyway, he described being dressed nicely which does not mean he's rich. Comments such 'low socio-economic class' generally mean lower class, not middle class. That doesn't mean the guy actually was lower class, but he at least came across like he was through dress, manner, and speech.

So the OP gets attacked out in public for being well dressed, he comes on here to vent a little and ask if it has ever happened to anyone else, and he gets attacked here too. Do you think that will really make him want to contribute to other discussions here knowing that is the type of response he can expect?
Edited by ddonicht - 10/21/11 at 12:34pm
post #52 of 80
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Originally Posted by ddonicht View Post

From what I've read on this thread, the OP was not the aggressor but was doing his own thing when someone else, drunk or otherwise, attached him. It might not have escalated to a physical confrontation but it was an unprovoked attack nonetheless. He has every right to not be happy about the situation. It is also human nature to make judgements based on what you see in front of you. After all, didn't this start due to the other person doing just that to the OP? The mark of class is being able to adjust your opinions of someone or something when presented with evidence contrary to your initial impressions.
Also, I fail to see how he has in any way threatened the middle class. I don't recall any blue blood statements like "if the guy couldn't afford a bespoke suit he isn't worth anything". And before anyone says anything about that statement, it was supposed to be an extreme example. Anyway, he described being dressed nicely which does not mean he's rich. Comments such 'low socio-economic class' generally mean lower class, not middle class. That doesn't mean the guy actually was lower class, but he at least came across like he was through dress, manner, and speech.
So the OP gets attack out in public for being well dressed, he comes on here to vent a little and ask if it has ever happened to anyone else, and he gets attacked here too. Do you think that will really make him want to contribute to other discussions here knowing that is the type of response he can expect?

I'm not saying that the drunk man was right for saying what he did.He didn't seem to be venting, rather I felt he was boasting - at least the way I read it, it was.

I'm not saying to stop yourself from being a striking and threatening image on the loose. Just saying to be humble about it, yeah that drunk 20's guy was an ass for behaving the way he did, but its nothing to be proud of to be the partial reason he said the things he said.

I'm not attacking texaschili, i weclome him to participate smile.gif, seems like a sharp guy if he can make someone he doesn't know go off on him like that.
post #53 of 80
I don't get dirty looks, I get comments, but they are almost always complimentary.

People at work like to say things when I wear brightly colored pants or hats, but its more about how they couldn't imagine wearing that style themselves.

For some reason, homeless guys always like to compliment me on my attire which I'm not sure if its real or just a prelude to asking for money.

As for biker bars, I have been that guy wearing a suit in them and other sketchy locations. If your attitude is right, you can not only pull it off, but have a great time while you are there. Bikers respect attitude.
post #54 of 80
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Originally Posted by texaschili View Post

"you think you're better than me cuz you have a blazer and a job?!?"

"Of course not. My having a job is just luck."

BTW, Saturdays, you didn't happen to be in Denver last weekend, did you?
Edited by Bounder - 10/21/11 at 4:54pm
post #55 of 80
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Originally Posted by Bounder View Post

"Of course not. My having a job is just luck."
BTW, Saturdays, you didn't happen to be in Denver last weekend, did you?

No have never been to Colorado, been meaning to visit, heard its a beautiful state.
post #56 of 80
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Originally Posted by Bradford View Post

I don't get dirty looks, I get comments, but they are almost always complimentary.
People at work like to say things when I wear brightly colored pants or hats, but its more about how they couldn't imagine wearing that style themselves.
For some reason, homeless guys always like to compliment me on my attire which I'm not sure if its real or just a prelude to asking for money.
As for biker bars, I have been that guy wearing a suit in them and other sketchy locations. If your attitude is right, you can not only pull it off, but have a great time while you are there. Bikers respect attitude.

That's what I find in general. People may not dress well themselves, but they really tend to respect balls. If you put yourself out there and dress well, even if you don't dress too formally, most will respect it.

Some will feel threatened, but that's the minority. My biggest problem is that I sometimes get mistaken for somebody in a position of authority when it's rather laughable. A drugstore, for instance. I've had people ask if I work there and if I can help just because I'm dressed decently, when everyone who does work there is dressed in badly fitting black khakis and a blue uniform vest. It makes me laugh a bit when that happens, though I guess they might think I'm a manager or something not subject to the uniform bit.
post #57 of 80
Never. I can dress how I like.
post #58 of 80
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Verniza View Post

It's a different case for me.

I get shot looks whenever I wear a dress shirt regardless of whether it is paired with a pair of jeans or trousers. Even worse when I don a sports coat. I shiver at the thought of the looks I may encounter when my suit arrives.

Maybe it's because of my young age and my location but I keep getting stares that are not of the admiration vibe but rather more of the, "Is this guy trying to flaunt?" vibe.

This applies to me exactly. I think age plays a big aspect of it. And another thing is that people expect me to be in a position of authority when I wear a suit or blazer. I'm a full time student and I try to dress business casual, pants, dress shirts tucked, dress shoes, sweaters etc. I work part time with a lot of butchers and sausage making servicing industry, so I pretty much dress down when I work. I change my clothes at work like many people there.
post #59 of 80
Once when wore a raincoat with a tie, I head someone say I looked like a detective (uttered disparagingly).

Another time, I was wearing a long coat and tie at a window shopping area. I walked past two guys and one of them said to the other 'I wish I had his job'.

It's embarrassing when I hear comments such as these, but there's nothing I can do about them and I probably shouldn't care.
post #60 of 80
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Originally Posted by texaschili View Post

I have experienced first hand reactions beyond "dirty looks". I have had other men feel threatened by my sharp dressing.
I was on the sidewalk with a girl whilst another party was parking the car and a drunken man in his early 20s came over and begun mouthing off to me with the following comments:
"you think you're better than me cuz you have a blazer and a job?!?"
He felt threatened that I was communicating success through my clothes which this guy had very little of. Bold clothing choices send messages and weak people who have nothing going for them sometimes take offense.
There are lots of unemployed/underemployed people who are fearful about there position in life and they feel threatened by people who have it better than them.


Obviously the drunk has a low self-esteem problem. Very low; if he feels threatened by the way someone dresses. Also stupid. Apparently he thought your choice of dress was a bad reflection on him - which it wasn't - it had nothing to do with him. Ignore him; he's just ignorant white trash. Twice in the last 2 months I've had people say "you look like a Kennedy" in regards to my suit. Funny.

 

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