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post #61 of 85
Excellent thread. That's a rather blatant fake. Some imperfections (poorly sewn label, no Brioni lining, etc.) could have been explained by a simple lining replacement... But I had a good laugh seeing those shady buttonholes - Brioni does not make this.

Here are pictures from my wardrobe. Let's admire a real Brioni sportcoat, and real Brioni trousers:

Divine hand-made buttonhole on the jacket, front:
210

Same one, back:
210

General shape of the undercollar (that's a DB jacket):
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Details - subtle seams and rounded edges:
210

Trousers. Well-stitched waistband - note the V-split in the back, which means comfort and high quality:
210

Waistband, inside:
210

Closer... Note the "Brioni" mention all over the waistband, and the mandatory tag:
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And let's compare this with your fake.
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Please leave negative feedback to the seller. If he's a pro, he could not ignore the utter fakeness of his item.
post #62 of 85
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Originally Posted by sprout View Post

jefferyd is so cool.  I would love to see some kind of CSI: Textiles television show in which he investigates the authenticity of garments and gets dispatched to sartorial crime scenes to do forensics.  His blog is kind of like that, but motion pictures would be better.
I'm up for it!
post #63 of 85
Looks like OP did not leave the seller negative feedback. He has a feedback rating of over 4300 with no negatives!


He has a lot of suits, however every single 38, 40, 42 etc has the same exact measurements from what I saw. I am curious if all his suits are fakes or if, out of those 4300+ suits he has sold, OP is the only one to figure it out??!?!?


I dont think I will be taking the chance to find out, although they all sell for less than 300 bucks. Interesting thread, nonetheless.
post #64 of 85
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Originally Posted by jefferyd View Post

Jsingh emailed me the photos and I've selected a few which show that this is absolutely fake.
This is a machine-made buttonhole. And a badly made one at that. Brioni makes splendid buttonholes BY HAND
This undercollar was applied by machine, using the bottom of the barrel in terms of technique. The square corner and the zig-zag stitching are the giveaways. Brioni would have a rounded edge, the felt would lap at least 1/4" lower than the gorge seam, and it would be sewn on by hand (or at worst with an AMF machine)
The belt loops have been made on a double needle machine, and the waistband has been channel stitched to fell it, rather than using a blindstitch. Again, bottom of the construction barrel.
This suit is worth $150 at retail, brand new. Send it back to the seller. That he told you some story about its provenance suggests he knows what he's selling is fake.
Sorry.

Is there a thread or article somewhere that one can learn more about these construction techniques?
post #65 of 85

Hello!

I am interested in http://www.ebay.com/itm/Recent-5495-BRIONI-Side-Vent-Navy-Stripe-Super-150s-Wool-Suit-38-R-Handmade-/380426850842?pt=US_CSA_MC_Suits&hash=item589335121a

But a very suspicious moment-no signature lining on it and no tags on trousers. What is your conclusion gentlemens?

post #66 of 85
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Originally Posted by VladimirN View Post

Hello!
I am interested in http://www.ebay.com/itm/Recent-5495-BRIONI-Side-Vent-Navy-Stripe-Super-150s-Wool-Suit-38-R-Handmade-/380426850842?pt=US_CSA_MC_Suits&hash=item589335121a
But a very suspicious moment-no signature lining on it and no tags on trousers. What is your conclusion gentlemens?

Authentic, and that seller knows their stuff as well. You would be massively overpaying for that suit BTW! Not all Brioni suits have signature lining, and as far as I can tell that suit also looks like an older model.
post #67 of 85

Thank you! I am not looking for the last Brioni collection item and suppose that this price is attractive for a good quality (and condition).

post #68 of 85

You mean that price of 995 USD is too expensive for that suit or I will overpay for a similiar suit in retail instead of that distinctive suit?

post #69 of 85

Another one question :) How will I know the date of suit manufacturing? Maybe the tag or label (color of) will assist me?

post #70 of 85
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Originally Posted by Klobber View Post

Authentic, and that seller knows their stuff as well. You would be massively overpaying for that suit BTW! Not all Brioni suits have signature lining, and as far as I can tell that suit also looks like an older model.

I'm the seller of that suit - it's a made-to-measure piece that the consignor commissioned about 3 years ago, so I wouldn't consider it an older model.
post #71 of 85
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Originally Posted by VMan View Post


I'm the seller of that suit - it's a made-to-measure piece that the consignor commissioned about 3 years ago, so I wouldn't consider it an older model.



Thank you for an additional information.

 

post #72 of 85


 

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Originally Posted by jefferyd View Post

Jsingh emailed me the photos and I've selected a few which show that this is absolutely fake.
This is a machine-made buttonhole. And a badly made one at that. Brioni makes splendid buttonholes BY HAND
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This undercollar was applied by machine, using the bottom of the barrel in terms of technique. The square corner and the zig-zag stitching are the giveaways. Brioni would have a rounded edge, the felt would lap at least 1/4" lower than the gorge seam, and it would be sewn on by hand (or at worst with an AMF machine)
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The belt loops have been made on a double needle machine, and the waistband has been channel stitched to fell it, rather than using a blindstitch. Again, bottom of the construction barrel.
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This suit is worth $150 at retail, brand new. Send it back to the seller. That he told you some story about its provenance suggests he knows what he's selling is fake.
Sorry.



This thread was good. It's like it's difficult to find authentic stuff on ebay.

post #73 of 85
post #74 of 85

Opinions? Offered 250 for this on Ebay. Yet to see in person and the seller takes no refunds (supposedly). I'm curious about it's authenticity now that I pulled the trigger. 

 

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So far, so good.

 

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Can't get a higher res photo at the moment. Buttonhole looks a bit suspicious to me.

 

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The piece de resistance. Wish I'd asked for more detailed photos before. Not sure if the lining is original/Brioni. 

post #75 of 85
Looks like some late 1980s thing, horribly dated. certainly not worth $250.
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