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I could go for a nice cote du bresse right about now.
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Matt, did you mention Achillus or Reevolving in your Maid of Homor speech?
BTW, I hope that you did the Funky Chicken, for which an unbuttoned DB offers the potential of awesome moves.
Thank you.
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That's 1%-ish.
Did Zabar's cater?
Oh: saw PT today out in the harbor, astride a dolphin. Since they don't allow mammal riding in the Canal, it means that he rounded Cape Horn.
That's damn impressive.
How are your socks, BTW?

Dolphin saddled in Hermes, I would assume.

My socks are mended, thank you.
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Well, the wedding was over the weekend and I wore my full get-up. First time ever in 100% correct black tie. A few observations:
1. I f*cked up by ordering my shirt with a two-button collar as on my regular shirts. The bottom button tends to show.
2. A cummerbund is useful even with a double-breasted dinner jacket. When sitting or dancing it's nice to have the option of unbuttoning the jacket.
3. Even though it was a large black tie event (~250 people) at a fancy hotel with generally well-to-do guests, very few men dressed in fully correct black tie. In fact, there were more guys in black suits with long black ties than ones in a proper tuxedo with a bow tie. Most of the men in correct black tie were over 60. Almost all dinner jackets worn were single breasted with notch lapels. Shoes were egregious across the board. It was basically as if people just wore whatever black shoes they happened to have. Lots of brogues. Lots of loafers, too.
4. A surprising number of men, young and old, wore pocket squares. They probably shouldn't have as most were awkwardly tucked in (lots of TV-folded silk) or odd in design.
5. Maybe 1 in 10 men in dinner jackets wore studs. The others were all in regularly buttoned shirts.
6. There was one other guest I saw with shawl lapels and he was easily 70.
7. Single-cuff shirts were nowhere to be seen. Everyone but me wore French cuffs. I didn't notice any barrel cuffs.
8. No matter what anybody says, there is a real advantage to a pique bib front and collar even if not starched. The heavier, highly textured fabric keeps the visible parts of the shirt looking flat and unwrinkled. When you don't have a long tie to cover things up, a regular shirt tends to look too rumpled.

Your observations speak volumes about the time, effort and expense expended in/on situations like this.
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This is the perfect opening sentence for a Maid of Honor speech.

"As they say, always the bridesmaid, never the bride."

Worked well.
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Your observations speak volumes about the time, effort and expense expended in/on situations like this.

Well, my wife and I were truly puzzled when we thought about it. We know for a fact most of our peers at this wedding could easily afford to do things correctly--they either did not care to, or were unaware that there is a 'correct' way.
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Well, my wife and I were truly puzzled when we thought about it. We know for a fact most of our peers at this wedding could easily afford to do things correctly--they either did not care to, or were unaware that there is a 'correct' way.

Unfortunately I think it has to do more with one's thinking that correct formal attire, since seldom used, deserves a spot on the back burner. I would guess the gents in proper attire attend at least one more formal event per year than the younger crowd.
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Unfortunately I think it has to do more with one's thinking that correct formal attire, since seldom used, deserves a spot on the back burner. I would guess the gents in proper attire attend at least one more formal event per year than the younger crowd.

Probably true to some extent--but I wager that many simply believe that what we call "correct" is simply passe.
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

Probably true to some extent--but I wager that many simply believe that what we call "correct" is simply passe.

Perhaps.

I wrote this on your other thread but didn't get a chance to submit before SF dumbed out for a sec so here:

Some years ago I worked at a firm that held at least two formal events annually besides the ones we were invited to. Yet I still went the rental route inclusive of shoes. If I knew then what I know now I would have definitely purchased a proper rig and shoes/accessories.

From what I can remember, the vast majority of men were in proper evening attire. This was the sort of crowd that attend formal events rather regularly. A snooty bunch. But I can imagine a modern-day non-gala level event turning up the gamut from properly clad gents to dudes in Gucci loafers.
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Probably true to some extent--but I wager that many simply believe that what we call "correct" is simply passe.

This is certainly true for formal events in my area. It's not New York, but it's not without people who might be expected to know better. Yet it seems that every time there's a black tie event the shoes are consistently a complete afterthought. There are always multiple guys who show up in black Gucci bit loafers, to be clever, ironic, or most usually because they consider those to be hyper dressy and don't care to know better... and these are usually the most affluent guys in the room.

Anyway. This was an interesting thread- it sounds like you had a lot of fun with the whole process, and got some good input along the way. Nice to see a thread start that way and stay that way.
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There are always multiple guys who show up in black Gucci bit loafers, to be clever, ironic, or most usually because they consider those to be hyper dressy and don't care to know better... and these are usually the most affluent guys in the room.

Now I'm thinking, maybe the gooch loafers were worn in an FU fashion? Like, "there will mostly be yokels here so I'm not showing up in full regalia, they don't deserve as much..."

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Originally Posted by NORE View Post

Now I'm thinking, maybe the gooch loafers were worn in an FU fashion? Like, "there will mostly be yokels here so I'm not showing up in full regalia, they don't deserve as much..."
?

Perhaps you have uncovered a trend in formal shoes - the equivalent of go-to-hell pants.
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Foo, what is your verdict on the alden patent plain toe as I need a pair of correct formal shoes, and they seem to be the most affordable goodyear welted that look good
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Foo, what is your verdict on the alden patent plain toe as I need a pair of correct formal shoes, and they seem to be the most affordable goodyear welted that look good

I would not get Goodyear-welted shoes, because the soles will be too thick, and therefore inelegant. Have you seen what Will at A Suitable Wardrobe is offering? Brooks Brothers is also a good source of evening shoes.
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