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post #46 of 60
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Originally Posted by Slewfoot View Post

Cologne is so hot right now...even Bieber has his own...
bieber-cologne.jpg?w=490&h=324

His cologne was originally supposed to be called 'Someday They'll Drop" but it wouldn't fit on the label.

As for the OP,
post #47 of 60
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Originally Posted by Ebichuman View Post

That's true, but I think the eyebrows were raised not because he's looking for a scent but the context around it. I mean, come on, he said he bought leather gloves because they made Patrick Bateman looks good... It's either a joke or he's got no self-awareness.
What's gonna happen when he needs to order business cards!? Bone....Eggshell....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cISYzA36-ZY

I think OP's original post was fine (aside from the austere demeanor comment). But his subsequent comments bordered on trolling, big time. I made my suggestions to him, based on mainstream choices that would suffice his novice level of fragrance knowledge. I don't know how well houses like Creed, TOM FORD, Guerlain, Frederic Malle will help for someone starting out. But i'll give this a more thorough attempt in the near future, all in spirit of "benefit of the doubt" nod[1].gif
post #48 of 60
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Originally Posted by althanis View Post

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Originally Posted by Snew View Post

I want to create the facade that I know something about cologne; picking whatever smells good to me won't quite do that.



People like you make me throw up in my mouth a little.

Why don't you just give your life up and pretend to be someone else completely?

How in the world can you basically ask the internet to tell you what to wear, tell you how to carry yourself and tell you what to smell like? Are you going to also ask us what we think of your girlfriend?

Nothing's wrong for asking what scents other people like, what basenotes probably match your personality and you might like, that sort of thing. But something is really wrong with what you're trying to do.

 


I think people like you take offense to an approach like mine because you're bitter that someone would try to take a shortcut to get to the same place that you are.  "Hey, I learned about this subject over the course of years/a lifetime!  Like hell will I just give you the benefit of my experience (even though it would be easy for me to do so), earn it like I did!"  

 

This is not just with cologne; it is with fashion in general as well as a number of other things that require knowledge.  For instance, if I didn't know anything about music (I do), I might ask what a good mix would be to put on my computer to play at an apartment party, and another mix for when my boss looks at my iPhone.  I'd provide a good amount of background, as I did in my cologne request.  It would easily be within the means of a music connoisseur to give me a definite list of what would make a good impression at the party, and another list of songs for the boss.  Snobs as yourself would take offense to the very nature of the question and likely even deny it having a possible answer.  "What?  You want us to help you pick music to impress other people?!  Ludicrous, and furthermore, impossible because everyone's different.  You should be yourself, faker."  In reality, however, one need not spend years of his life and keep up with current music trends to seem as though he does, and a simple answer to the question allows him to circumvent the process.  That makes you throw up in your mouth a little.

 

In other words, haters gonna hate.

 

 

Anyway, I've gotten a ton of suggestions from this thread, basenotes (I made a thread there at the same time I made one here), and a bodybuilding forum I frequent.  I'm not sure which department store would be best for me to go to, but absent any advice otherwise, I'll probably go to Macy's and see which of the suggestions I've gotten I like best.

post #49 of 60
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Originally Posted by Snew View Post

"What?  You want us to help you pick music to impress other people?!  Ludicrous, and furthermore, impossible because everyone's different.  You should be yourself, faker."

And I expect that would be the answer you'd get if you went onto a DJ forum and asked them to give you a preset list of songs which you can play to fake being a DJ instead of adjusting what you play based on the mood and preference of the crowd like a real DJ would.

And I'm not even saying that wanting to impress people is bad. There's nothing wrong with wanting to impress people with your skill, talent or taste. But having a complete lack of any of these and trying to impress people anyway by faking it; that is the part that is just pathetic.

I don't expect you to spend a long time learning about hundreds of different colognes either, all I expect is that you choose one based on your own preference and personality, one that you think expresses who you are, not one that you may hate but that you force yourself to wear because you think it will impress people. That's just being a try-hard, and saying that you value other peoples approval above even your own comfort or expression. Not only is that so beta, but there is only so long it will fool people before they realise you lack any actual personality.

I know talking like this about a cologne seems a bit OTT, but the principle applies equally to every aspect of expression, to the clothes you wear, the music you listen to, that way you have a conversation. Extrapolate it to talking to women, and you become one of those creepy pick-up artists who, when talking to a women, does nothing but repeat lines and routines that they've read on the internet. It may even get you laid once or twice, but it won't get you much further than that before everyone involved realises you're just a shallow fraud.
post #50 of 60
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Originally Posted by Snew View Post

 

I think people like you take offense to an approach like mine because you're bitter that someone would try to take a shortcut to get to the same place that you are.  "Hey, I learned about this subject over the course of years/a lifetime!  Like hell will I just give you the benefit of my experience (even though it would be easy for me to do so), earn it like I did!"  

 

This is not just with cologne; it is with fashion in general as well as a number of other things that require knowledge.  For instance, if I didn't know anything about music (I do), I might ask what a good mix would be to put on my computer to play at an apartment party, and another mix for when my boss looks at my iPhone.  I'd provide a good amount of background, as I did in my cologne request.  It would easily be within the means of a music connoisseur to give me a definite list of what would make a good impression at the party, and another list of songs for the boss.  Snobs as yourself would take offense to the very nature of the question and likely even deny it having a possible answer.  "What?  You want us to help you pick music to impress other people?!  Ludicrous, and furthermore, impossible because everyone's different.  You should be yourself, faker."  In reality, however, one need not spend years of his life and keep up with current music trends to seem as though he does, and a simple answer to the question allows him to circumvent the process.  That makes you throw up in your mouth a little.

 

In other words, haters gonna hate.

 

 

Anyway, I've gotten a ton of suggestions from this thread, basenotes (I made a thread there at the same time I made one here), and a bodybuilding forum I frequent.  I'm not sure which department store would be best for me to go to, but absent any advice otherwise, I'll probably go to Macy's and see which of the suggestions I've gotten I like best.


No what you're saying is that you'd go to a DJ, get his playlist, and play it even if you don't like the music, just to impress others.

This is sad and fake.
post #51 of 60
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Originally Posted by cioni2k View Post


Yves Saint Laurent La Nuit De L'Homme EDT

I just bought some of this and I quite like it.

I would try the Creed scents. I love Green Irish Tweed.

Versace has some nice scents, might want to try them.

If I remember correctly the most popular scents in my area were aqua di gio, armani code, polo black (1 or 2, can't remember), and something blue. (according the the sales clerk at my local cologne/perfume store, I'm sure this varies by area)

I try to avoid very popular scents. (Creed may be very popular in some areas, but not in mine smile.gif )

Edit: For the record, I own Armani Code and like it. The scent stays on me for well over 12 hours, and can be over powering if I use too much.
post #52 of 60
acqua di parma colonia. the only one youll ever need.

keep in mind, youre asking a bunch of people what smells good...which is entirely personal. I think my farts smell great....but i doubt youd want me to come rip one on your neck and wrists every morning.
post #53 of 60
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Originally Posted by DWFII View Post

I thank you for that.
But I will go on record as saying that I would much rather talk to someone who admits his ignorance (lack of knowledge does not automatically equate to stupidity) than someone who is so afraid to ask a question that they end up castigating those who aren't.
I don't know the OP, but it is the better part of decency to give him the benefit of the doubt.

I wanted to quote this, because it raises a great point.

There's a bit of this indecision and approval-seeking that occurs with many people when they're just starting out in many endeavors. I did something similar for a while, and I know a lot of others who did the same. Basenotes, in particular, is rife with people who ask for suggestions and comparisons between scents (If I like B, will I also like C?).

A big part of this is not wanting to set a foot wrong. With scent, it's a bit more troublesome than just picking out the wrong tie, because you're stuck with the scent all day. And typically the scrubbers (i.e., the ones that don't work for you) are the most tenacious! I've had a few of these, some that were just plain awful - despite the glowing reviews - and a few that bloomed and gassed me out of my own office. I kinda wished someone had warned me off of those.

All that aside, the business of 'go with what smells good on you' is a good first step. If it doesn't smell good on you, you ought not wear it. At all. Anywhere. No matter who recommended it, no matter who endorses it or wears it or any of that. Test it for a day before you buy it - get samples wherever you can.

After that, it's a matter of degrees and what you feel comfortable wearing in a given setting. Some wear Acqua di Parma exclusively because it's impeccable for all situations (probably dowdy for the clubs, but whatever). Some wear Vetiver because it's classic and timeless. And others wear Angel because they can get away with it. Nothing wrong with any of it.

OP: to directly answer your post, I'd suggest you try the following:

Acqua di Parma
Guerlain Vetiver
Chanel Sycomore

as for clubbing, Angel or any of the A*Men variants.
post #54 of 60
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Originally Posted by Thomas View Post

I wanted to quote this, because it raises a great point.
There's a bit of this indecision and approval-seeking that occurs with many people when they're just starting out in many endeavors. I did something similar for a while, and I know a lot of others who did the same. Basenotes, in particular, is rife with people who ask for suggestions and comparisons between scents (If I like B, will I also like C?).
A big part of this is not wanting to set a foot wrong. With scent, it's a bit more troublesome than just picking out the wrong tie, because you're stuck with the scent all day. And typically the scrubbers (i.e., the ones that don't work for you) are the most tenacious! I've had a few of these, some that were just plain awful - despite the glowing reviews - and a few that bloomed and gassed me out of my own office. I kinda wished someone had warned me off of those.
All that aside, the business of 'go with what smells good on you' is a good first step. If it doesn't smell good on you, you ought not wear it. At all. Anywhere. No matter who recommended it, no matter who endorses it or wears it or any of that. Test it for a day before you buy it - get samples wherever you can.

That, right there, is some excellent advice.

Quite good fun to experiment with scents that work for you in different situations and find stuff that you (and 'er indoors) like.

Personally I stick to Amouage, cripplingly expensive but a little lasts all day and I like the pong.
post #55 of 60
What exactly is "clubbing," and why do you have to smell like a Persian to participate in it?
post #56 of 60
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Originally Posted by JakeLA View Post

What exactly is "clubbing," and why do you have to smell like a Persian to participate in it?

Well, it involves baby seals and the idea is to mask your scent so that the seals will mistake you for something non-threatening like a musk ox or a fruit salad.
post #57 of 60
I'm surprised this thread has gone this long without mention of http://www.fragrantica.com/ (is there a secret rule i'm breaking?)

OP, take a look over there for info on various brands. They even break it down by day, night, and seasons.
post #58 of 60
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Originally Posted by Thomas View Post

I wanted to quote this, because it raises a great point.
There's a bit of this indecision and approval-seeking that occurs with many people when they're just starting out in many endeavors. I did something similar for a while, and I know a lot of others who did the same. Basenotes, in particular, is rife with people who ask for suggestions and comparisons between scents (If I like B, will I also like C?).
A big part of this is not wanting to set a foot wrong. With scent, it's a bit more troublesome than just picking out the wrong tie, because you're stuck with the scent all day. And typically the scrubbers (i.e., the ones that don't work for you) are the most tenacious! I've had a few of these, some that were just plain awful - despite the glowing reviews - and a few that bloomed and gassed me out of my own office. I kinda wished someone had warned me off of those.
[snip]...

+1 Good post.

I might point out for the skeptical...and for those who need a reason to extend the benefit of the doubt...that there is a medical condition--anosmia--which is characterized by not being able to smell anything. The OP did say he didn't smell like anything...??

That said, I am not sticking up for the OP...or criticizing, either one...Or anyone. I'm just saying.

Personally, I didn't see any reason to take offense at his post.
post #59 of 60
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Originally Posted by Bounder View Post

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Originally Posted by JakeLA View Post

What exactly is "clubbing," and why do you have to smell like a Persian to participate in it?

Well, it involves baby seals and the idea is to mask your scent so that the seals will mistake you for something non-threatening like a musk ox or a fruit salad.

Lol

For the record, I think Polo Sport is the best smelling cologne of all time. Of all time!
post #60 of 60
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Originally Posted by Liquidus View Post

I'm surprised at the backlash to the OP's question.


I think it's more a backlash to the OP's explicit "I neither have nor want any style or personality of my own, yet I look down on those who wear sweatshirts to law school" attitude, but even so, the question itself is one that is bound to produce frustration.

 

That said, the OP could probably do worse than to go to basenotes.net and search the forum for the word "compliments."

 

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