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AE 5 Last Size vs. Brannock Size

post #1 of 27
10/6/11 at 6:28am
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I want to pick up a pair or 2 of AE shoes from allaboutshoes, but since they'll be my first pair, I wanted to try them on first.

I've searched lots of places in Toronto, and none of them have any AE shoes on the 5 last. The Brannock device says I'm an 8.5 D. How well does this size transfer to the AE 5 last? Can I just trust it and order the 8.5D of the Fifth Avenues?
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post #2 of 27
10/6/11 at 7:30am
I find the 5 to fit true to size. However, this is subjective depending on the shape of your foot, the height of your instep, and how you like your shoes to fit. i'd say 8.5D is the best place to start.
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post #3 of 27
10/6/11 at 10:18am
For me, I have to go down half a size on the 5 last. Depending on the return policy, you could order two pairs (one in 8D and one in 8.5D) and just exchange whichever doesn't fit.
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post #4 of 27
10/6/11 at 10:42am
my brannock size is 7..i have 6.5 for Strand due to elongated shape of the last. I prefer a snug fit when wearing balmoral style...
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post #5 of 27
10/6/11 at 11:39am
The 5 is a long last. I wear it true to size, but I probably could go down a 1/2 size and still be comfortable.

It is surprising that no store has the 5 last. Have you tried Harry Young's?

http://www.harryyoungshoes.ca/

Mim
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post #6 of 27
10/6/11 at 1:05pm
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Yep, I went in to Harry Young about 2 afternoons ago.

Edit: And thanks for the responses so far. I'll talk to him and see what's the best solution we can come up with. Very helpful so far!
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post #7 of 27
10/6/11 at 4:34pm
I would say try a 8E in the Allen Edmond # 5 last - They didn't have anything in the # 5 last like Park Ave, Fifth Ave, Strand is crazy since they are AE's biggest sellers for years.

My Allen Edmonds Strands are 7.5E and are tad over 11 3/4 inches long and 4 1/4 inches wide
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post #8 of 27
10/6/11 at 6:14pm
I'd be very careful without trying on a pair of shoes. I was measured at Harry Rosen with a Brannock as a 14EEE and turned out to actually be a 13E.

Quite possibly, the salesman just fucked up. He didn't really know what he was doing.
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post #9 of 27
10/7/11 at 6:47am
I'm a 10D, and the salesman at the AE store here in SF brought out a 9.5 in the Strand and McAllister. Both fit perfectly.
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post #10 of 27
10/7/11 at 9:11am
I find the #5 last to be true to size. I am an 11A and an 11A fits fine.
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post #11 of 27
10/7/11 at 9:19am
Actually, I found out what my true size in shoes was with the Strand on the #5. 12.5D. I'd echo TTS.
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post #12 of 27
10/7/11 at 10:14am
I don't think, the Brannock devise is any useful. In the end, it really depends on your foot shape.

For what's worth, my data indicates that over 35% of all people who rated shoes on the #5 last as fairly, or good fitting, rated their "true size".

By "true size" I mean the maximum length of your feet, measured while standing upright, converted to US sizes, added 1.5 units, and rounded to the next half size. Alternatively, get the Allen Edmonds sizing guide from their homepage, and subtract half a size from the result.
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post #13 of 27
10/9/11 at 9:35am
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I guess if this says anything, it says that size is truly unique. I'll have to keep checking around until I can actually try them on.
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post #14 of 27
10/9/11 at 10:46am
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Originally Posted by Claus View Post

I don't think, the Brannock devise is any useful. In the end, it really depends on your foot shape.

+1

Brannock devices are true to...Brannock devices.

Shoe sizes are true to the sizing system of the factory, the sizing system of the last...and that's extremely arbitrary and...and your own subjective druthers.

Sometimes Brannock devices and a particular shoe size will synchronize. More often than not never to be repeated.

Few shoe salesmen have any real knowledge of foot anatomy much less proper fit....it's not really their fault.
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post #15 of 27
10/9/11 at 11:01am
Stupid question but could you send a link to the AE page on the allaboutshoes site? I can't find it.

Thanks!!!
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