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The Joy of Renovateur - Vintage Lloyd Jennings

post #1 of 33
10/2/11 at 7:46pm
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I recently came across a pair of neglected saddle shoes from Lloyd Jennings (anyone know if the company is still around?). I basically gave them a good cleaning before bathing them in renovateur for two days. I think they came out looking much better - the Renovateur really works wonders . . .

http://uptowndandy.blogspot.com/2011/10/vintage-eg-for-lloyd-jennings-wonderful.html
Edited by PhiloVance - 10/2/11 at 7:59pm
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post #2 of 33
10/2/11 at 7:55pm
A very impressive act of recovery. Lovely shoes.
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post #3 of 33
10/2/11 at 7:55pm
Wow. The after looks great.
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post #4 of 33
10/2/11 at 8:05pm
how many coatings of Reno did you use to achieve that result and how long did you let the Reno stay before buffing it off
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post #5 of 33
10/2/11 at 10:14pm
Good job on them.
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post #6 of 33
10/2/11 at 10:18pm
Very nice!
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post #7 of 33
10/3/11 at 8:00am
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Originally Posted by bibs View Post

how many coatings of Reno did you use to achieve that result and how long did you let the Reno stay before buffing it off

Basically, two coats of renovateur, 24 hours apart. Each time, I applied the conditioner with a rag and rubbed it into the leather. Then, after about 20 minutes, I used a brush to give the shoes a mild shine.
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post #8 of 33
10/3/11 at 8:25am
Lovely
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post #9 of 33
10/3/11 at 8:50am
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Originally Posted by PhiloVance View Post

I recently came across a pair of neglected saddle shoes from Lloyd Jennings (anyone know if the company is still around?). I basically gave them a good cleaning before bathing them in renovateur for two days. I think they came out looking much better - the Renovateur really works wonders . . .
http://uptowndandy.blogspot.com/2011/10/vintage-eg-for-lloyd-jennings-wonderful.html

not to rain on your parade. i had shoes that looked similar. a fair bit of leather grease and the normal wax routine does the same to them. sf is the only place, i heard about conditioner for shoes. i was in the thinking, this is a haircare thing.

just my two cents.
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post #10 of 33
10/3/11 at 8:53am
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Good job on them.
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Originally Posted by AlanC View Post

A very impressive act of recovery. Lovely shoes.

tell me about the impressive part, please
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post #11 of 33
10/3/11 at 8:56am
Please report back after you wear them a bit. People have had similar nice looking results, only to have their shoes rip and the crease upon wear.
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post #12 of 33
10/3/11 at 9:14am
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Originally Posted by fritzl View Post

not to rain on your parade. i had shoes that looked similar. a fair bit of leather grease and the normal wax routine does the same to them. sf is the only place, i heard about conditioner for shoes. i was in the thinking, this is a haircare thing.
just my two cents.

I'm not sure why you think it would ruin my day to know that you've fixed up an old pair of shoes using a different method smile.gif

Thanks for the tips - I've never used leather grease before, so perhaps I need to give it a try. My experience with wax is that it didnt do much to alleviate the creasing. If anything, it actually highlights the creasing in my mind. But, admittedly, I was never very good at applying wax evenly - I always thought it looked a bit patchy even after brushing/polishing , to my eye anyway. This is why I gradually switched over to creams.

In any event, I was out of neutral wax and don't have anything in dark brown at the moment. So the Renovateur was my only option, really.
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post #13 of 33
10/3/11 at 9:19am
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Originally Posted by Joenobody0 View Post

Please report back after you wear them a bit. People have had similar nice looking results, only to have their shoes rip and the crease upon wear.

That will be tough as these are probably about half a size too small for me. I could probably have them stretched slightly, but I'm not sure when I'll get around to that.

I've used Renovateur on other shoes that are at least 25 years old and have not had a problem with rips or tears. Granted, in the cases where I've gone on to wear the shoes regularly, the leather was dry but in great condition to begin with. All shoes crease over time, so I'm not sure if I would characterize that as a problem really.
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post #14 of 33
10/3/11 at 9:31am
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I'm not sure why you think it would ruin my day to know that you've fixed up an old pair of shoes using a different method smile.gif
Thanks for the tips - I've never used leather grease before, so perhaps I need to give it a try. My experience with wax is that it didnt do much to alleviate the creasing. If anything, it actually highlights the creasing in my mind.

ah, ok. as we talked already. i prefer my "old" shoes look a bit like that. yep, i don't mind the creases visible.

according to the old shoes restoring thread recently. creases are are creaes and tears + scratcher are what they are. nevertheless a shoe can have a lot of character still.
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post #15 of 33
10/3/11 at 12:02pm
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I recently came across a pair of neglected saddle shoes from Lloyd Jennings (anyone know if the company is still around?)

Hackett the clothing store, was founded (in either 1979 or '83) by Jeremy Hackett and Ashley Lloyd-Jennings who had met on Portobello Road market, searching for second-hand traditional English men's wear. They opened their fist shop on Parson's Green in Fulham (West London). Initially a second-hand shop, they subsequently ventured into new merchandise, having found manufacturers who would produce traditional retro clothing, after they couldn't find enough second-hand gear.

Their next venture together was a shoe shop on Old Bond Street. As Jeremy's name was used for the clothing store, Ashley gave his name to the shoe shop. The shop didn't last very long, maybe two years. In addition to ready-to-wear, they did offer a bespoke service (I presume using out-workers).

Lloyd-Jennings was also involved with Edward Green (don't know in what capacity or for how long), he was part of that Anglo-American group who run EG between 1977 and '82, and brought the company to the brink of bankruptcy (John Hlustik did buy the company as a going concern with all it's debts for just one GBP).
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In 1977 the Green family sold the business to American leather entrepreneur Marley Hodgson but financial problems continued and Hodgson sold to shoe designer John Hlustik in 1982.

http://www.northamptonshireleather.com/industry/directory/type/trade/letter/All/did/91

It is possible that EG under John Hlustik did continue to supply the Lloyd-Jennings shoe shop, but the venture might have folded prior to that.
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