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post #1756 of 3039
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Originally Posted by makewayhomer View Post

does anyone have a comparison pic of a bunch of light brown shell handy?


For instance a comparison pic of

Natural
Tan (What Rancourt calls Tan)
Saddle
Whiskey

would love to see those together. I have Tan shell and curious to see how those compare to the others and none of the others currently frown.gif

 

Best I can do for now, crappy lighting right now since it's dark out.  

 

Haven't heard of Rancourt calling it Tan, but these are Caramel, which was the lightest color available.  They've also aged a bit.

 

Not sure if the Carmina's are Natural or Saddle.  They were supposed to be natural but looks like Carmina put a finish on them.  Have a pair of Saddle coming in from Carmina sometime soon, so will be able to compare it to them eventually.

 

 

L>R: Caramel (Rancourt), Natural (AE), Natural/Saddle? (Carmina), Whiskey (C&J)

 

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post #1757 of 3039
awesome thanks man

Brooks Brothers actually calls them Tan here, but yes it looks like Rancourt calls them Caramel

http://www.brooksbrothers.com/Rancourt-Co.-Cordovan-Venetian-Loafers/MH00389,default,pd.html

and honestly if you told me those were all the same color I'd believe you
post #1758 of 3039
Got my order in for the Mahogany shell boot and was thinking about a whiskey shell one as well, but apparently they sold out. Makes that decision easy. smile.gif
post #1759 of 3039
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awesome thanks man

Brooks Brothers actually calls them Tan here, but yes it looks like Rancourt calls them Caramel

http://www.brooksbrothers.com/Rancourt-Co.-Cordovan-Venetian-Loafers/MH00389,default,pd.html

and honestly if you told me those were all the same color I'd believe you

 

Took another with some better natural lighting

 

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Took another with some better natural lighting

 

 

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Your saddle shell looks closer to natural than my pair (I have the same boots) which look closer to lighter cognac. It might be because I applied some neutral cordovan cream over the past year. 

 

How do you find yourself wearing both the Carminas and C&J? The same oufits or different due to C&J's split welt vs. Carmina's flat welt and trimmer sole edge?

post #1761 of 3039
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Your saddle shell looks closer to natural than my pair (I have the same boots) which look closer to lighter cognac. It might be because I applied some neutral cordovan cream over the past year. 

 

How do you find yourself wearing both the Carminas and C&J? The same oufits or different due to C&J's split welt vs. Carmina's flat welt and trimmer sole edge?

 

Not sure if the Carminas are Natural or saddle, think they might just be Natural shell with a slight finish on them.

 

Haven't actually worn either yet because I haven'd decided if I'm going to keep both.  If I do, will end up wearing them with pretty much the same outfits.

post #1762 of 3039
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Not sure if the Carminas are Natural or saddle, think they might just be Natural shell with a slight finish on them.

 

Haven't actually worn either yet because I haven'd decided if I'm going to keep both.  If I do, will end up wearing them with pretty much the same outfits.

 

They look more Saddle than Natural. Could be wrong though. Saddle is just a touch darker.

post #1763 of 3039

If anyone was interested in the Rider Boot Co GMTO but didn't want to wait and happens to be a size 9.5D, all of the sample pairs are available for immediate sale for $825 + shipping.

 

  • Horween Black Shell Cordovan Captoe Boots - 5 eyelets, 3 speed hooks, black edge dressing, storm welt, Sestriere sole with double midsole.
  • Horween Dark Cognac Shell Cordovan Captoe Boots - 5 eyelets, 3 speed hooks, mid brown edge dressing, storm welt, Sestriere sole with double midsole.
  • Horween Color 8 Shell Cordovan Captoe Boots - 5 eyelets, 3 speed hooks, mid brown edge dressing, storm welt, Sestriere sole with double midsole.
  • Horween Brown Shell Cordovan Longwing Shoe - 5 blind eyelets, mid brown edge dressing, storm welt, double leather sole.
  • Horween Mahogany Shell Cordovan Longwing Shoe - 5 blind eyelets, mid brown edge dressing, storm welt, double leather sole.

 

Just trying to help Ron get these sold so he doesn't have to hold onto them on account of me! Photos of all the samples are available here.

post #1764 of 3039
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If anyone was interested in the Rider Boot Co GMTO but didn't want to wait and happens to be a size 9.5D, all of the sample pairs are available for immediate sale for $825 + shipping.

[*] Horween Black Shell Cordovan Captoe Boots - 5 eyelets, 3 speed hooks, black edge dressing, storm welt, Sestriere sole with double midsole.
[*] Horween Dark Cognac Shell Cordovan Captoe Boots - 5 eyelets, 3 speed hooks, mid brown edge dressing, storm welt, Sestriere sole with double midsole.
[*] Horween Color 8 Shell Cordovan Captoe Boots - 5 eyelets, 3 speed hooks, mid brown edge dressing, storm welt, Sestriere sole with double midsole.
[*] Horween Brown Shell Cordovan Longwing Shoe - 5 blind eyelets, mid brown edge dressing, storm welt, double leather sole.
[*] Horween Mahogany Shell Cordovan Longwing Shoe - 5 blind eyelets, mid brown edge dressing, storm welt, double leather sole.


Just trying to help Ron get these sold so he doesn't have to hold onto them on account of me! Photos of all the samples are available here.

do you actually know if these are "official" Horween colors or not? I've heard of Horween using both "Cognac" and "Dark Cognac" but I'm not sure if that is actually the case or not. as you buy from them - have you ever seen an order form which lists actual official names?
post #1765 of 3039
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do you actually know if these are "official" Horween colors or not? I've heard of Horween using both "Cognac" and "Dark Cognac" but I'm not sure if that is actually the case or not. as you buy from them - have you ever seen an order form which lists actual official names?

 

These are all the "official" names from a stocklist from a Horween rep.

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Anthony Cleverly
post #1767 of 3039
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Originally Posted by makewayhomer View Post


do you actually know if these are "official" Horween colors or not? I've heard of Horween using both "Cognac" and "Dark Cognac" but I'm not sure if that is actually the case or not. as you buy from them - have you ever seen an order form which lists actual official names?

 

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These are all the "official" names from a stocklist from a Horween rep.

 

"Official" Horween shell color names (past and present), based on what I was told by Nick when I visited in May and asked about it. My memory may be a touch hazy, so I may have forgotten one or two, and may be misremembering a name or two:

 

Black, #8, #6, #4, #2, Mahogany, Dark Mahogany, Cognac, Dark Cognac, Brown, Dark Brown, Navy, Intense Blue, Gunmetal, Green, Dark Green, Whiskey, Saddle, Brandy, Natural, Mocha, Cappuccino, #449, Ravello, Cigar, and Walnut.

Also, I forgot to ask whether the "Truffle" that AE used is actually the same as Cappuccino.

He also explained that due to the fact that so many shoemakers dye shells after they get them from Horween that it's quite tough to try to make a "definitive list" of all the different colors of shells that Horween makes or has made, especially based on what the manufacturers call them, which doesn't always match up with the Horween shell color (e.g., many shoemakers use Dark Cognac and call it "brown", like AE and C&J do).

post #1768 of 3039
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Originally Posted by Deusis View Post

These are all the "official" names from a stocklist from a Horween rep.

Thanks. Do you know if cognac actually exists, or just dark cognac?
post #1769 of 3039
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Thanks. Do you know if cognac actually exists, or just dark cognac?

 

Yes. See above.

post #1770 of 3039
Think there's also medium cognac, which is essentially the same as Ravello for Non-Alden makers.  That's what these Carminas were called anyways:
 

 

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