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Hello Crockett and Jones aficionados, I need help with identification and sizing advice. I have looked through the forum, but I figure its just best to ask. First off, are these Crockett and Jones? they are listed as Alfred Sargent, but it has been suggested that that is incorrect. Second, how do these fit? I'm a tts US 9.5D sometimes US 9.5E. As reference I'm a 9D in Alden barrie & trubalance lasted boots. Any advice would be very helpful!

Thanks!


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They're Alfred Sargent
post #7712 of 7830
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They're Alfred Sargent

HA. It was the Alfred Sargent guys that told me that they are Crockett and Jones.... Any idea if they will fit TTS US?

post #7713 of 7830
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HA. It was the Alfred Sargent guys that told me that they are Crockett and Jones.... Any idea if they will fit TTS US?

The pattern is based on Alfred Sargent Dumfries but last seem different, I am not an expert about AS so I can't help sorry
post #7714 of 7830
For 325 last do you use a full size or 1/2 size conversion US vs UK?
post #7715 of 7830
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For 325 last do you use a full size or 1/2 size conversion US vs UK?

I wear a 12D and a 11E in shoes on the 325 last, but I believe that both sizes are UK.
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post #7717 of 7830

Anyone know if the Wilberforce wingtip bluchers from RL are made by C&J?

 

http://www.ralphlauren.com/product/index.jsp?productId=18274146

 

If so, what last?

 

 

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Thanks in advance!

post #7718 of 7830
I'd guess those Wilberforce are from Cheaney.
The Wilberforce medallion matches one used by Cheaney.
Also, Cheaney make the RRL Bowery boot.
post #7719 of 7830

How about these?  Does anyone know if the RL Rossendale shortwing blucher is made by C&J?  If so what last?

 

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Thanks in advance! 

post #7720 of 7830
So has anyone pulled up the RL lining enough to see the RL conversion from UK? Is it a full size or a half size. My BB Shell boots were 8.5 over 4, for fitting equivalent supposedly US 9.5D, Last 240.. hated the 4, or maybe the overall last .. It was too narrow and not so comfortable. Flip..
Trying to get a grip on 325 directly from C&J. Thanks
post #7721 of 7830
I didn't think C&J did the thing where they put the actual UK size on the sole liner.
My C&J Barney's pairs have the US size embossed there. I just checked some Barney's Tetbury size 10.5D. They say 10.5 over 4.
post #7722 of 7830
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How about these?  Does anyone know if the RL Rossendale shortwing blucher is made by C&J?  If so what last?

 

 

Thanks in advance! 

Those are made for sure by C&J to benchgrade standards (on the 341 last I think).

post #7723 of 7830
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Those are made for sure by C&J to benchgrade standards (on the 341 last I think).

Thanks! How would you know that they are bench grade standards? Is it the non-channeled sole?
post #7724 of 7830
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Those are made for sure by C&J to benchgrade standards (on the 341 last I think).

Thanks! How would you know that they are bench grade standards? Is it the non-channeled sole?

No closed channel soles, also the lining, the color of the sole, also no handgrade last (this isn't the 363 last).
post #7725 of 7830
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No closed channel soles, also the lining, the color of the sole, also no handgrade last (this isn't the 363 last).

Thanks! At full price that's pretty expensive for bench grade. Do you think it's possible RL gets a hybrid, where the last, construction, and finish are bench grade but the leather itself is of handgrade standards?
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