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post #7231 of 7869
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Originally Posted by cezinho View Post

Eventually both 9.5

I'd say most folks size down .5 for Van last, so if you are 9.5 D Van, 10D Lindrick is probably your best bet. but if you're saying you are also 9.5D Aberdeen, I would recommend 9.5 D Lindrick.
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I take a few shots in the morning and usually pick the best one to highlight here. Today, they all came out great.  So, I'm posting all of them:

 

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post #7233 of 7869
Cross post from the C&J MTO Central Thread:

OK chaps, I'd like to get another GMTO rolling...

Dundee Brogue Captoe Boot
Dark Brown Cordovan
Antique Edging
Storm Welt
Double Leather Sole
Black Eyelets & Speed-hooks
335 (Rounded) Last
Pulltab

(Example pics below are tan grain):









We would need a group of 12 to get the reduced GMTO rate. All widths have to be the same.

Price in the USA would be (a currently quite reasonable) $828 (excluding VAT) + shipping.

£650 including VAT
£541.67 excluding VAT

I would love to get this going so please spread the word if you are (or even if you aren't) interested!

PM me with any questions.

Cheers,

-Ed

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post #7234 of 7869
Thread Starter 
those look quite tasty
post #7235 of 7869
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Originally Posted by NAMOR View Post

those look quite tasty

Dare I say, scrumdiddalyumptuous?
Edited by hoit1981 - 10/7/15 at 7:23pm
post #7236 of 7869
Thread Starter 
I think you hit the nail on the head
post #7237 of 7869
All - could use the brain trust represented by Marlow owners in this thread. Thanks in advance!

Purchased a pair of tassel loafers from an eBay listing upthread (NOS display model - no wear on 'em). Two questions / issues:

Loafers fit fairly well barefoot, quite snug but eminently wearable; with socks, a bit too tight on one foot. I've seen a lot of different answers on cordovan stretch, but will I get anything at all from it, perhaps just a tiny bit of give? Would assume they stretch somewhere between "none" and calf, which should imply I should stay at current size vs going up a half...

Second question, very subjective. I'll post pics tomorrow AM, but the seller indicated "no visible defects" - unfortunately, the apron on one toe is stitched closer to the top of the shoe than the other. Not ultra noticeable, but certainly noticeable to the casual viewer who gave say 8-10 seconds scrutiny... $300 seems like a steal for shoes like this, but I'm not really much of a seconds buyer in general. What's the lowest price one might expect nowadays from RL? If it's low enough may rather buy a perfect pair than do a deal on 2nds. (PS any tips on dealing with seller welcome - seems like a decent sort, but wish they had been flagged as defective!)
post #7238 of 7869
You ought to post pictures.
post #7239 of 7869
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Originally Posted by smoothie1 View Post

You ought to post pictures.

Fair. Picture attached - sufficient or would more help? Apron extends further on one toe than the other. Issue seems clear to me but I've of course spent the afternoon agonizing.

Color variation seems within range of the couple pair I tried on at RL, and changes dramatically with the light.

post #7240 of 7869
I'm not sure whether that constitutes a defect, but I do notice the difference in stitching, and it would bother me. By the way, I have seen pairs of the wingtips where the brogueing was crooked and terrible, which were sold as first quality shoes.

Are the shoes mates (same size, color, etc.)? Unfortunately, you can get a variety of issues with this line of shoes. Does it make them seconds in the strict sense they have been marked as such by the manufacturer? Not at all. Are they perfect? Heck no.

Compared to the current MSRP, $300 seems like an attractive price. However, if the issue you have identified bothers you enough to bring the question to this thread, I am inclined to say, you might be happier with another pair, and that's fine. I'm also confident someone would be happy to have the shoes in question and would not really mind/notice the difference in stitching.

Best of luck.
post #7241 of 7869
I saw that listing, and I remember that difference, it was clearly visible.
So it isn't seller fault, subs pairs have SUBS stamped on the sole, good price anyway.
post #7242 of 7869
Yes, I did not reference the listing or seller in my response. I figured the issue would have been apparent, if there were pictures. As always, caveat emptor and examine the listing carefully.

I feel bad because some people are not really familiar with what they are buying in some cases
post #7243 of 7869
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Originally Posted by Bleedblue View Post


Fair. Picture attached - sufficient or would more help? Apron extends further on one toe than the other. Issue seems clear to me but I've of course spent the afternoon agonizing.

Color variation seems within range of the couple pair I tried on at RL, and changes dramatically with the light.

If you used paypal, you can get your $$ back.  If your reason is "not as described" you can get your full $$ back. If your reason is "doesn't fit", you can get your $$ back but you would have to cover return shipping.  Paypal always sides with buyer.

post #7244 of 7869
I think that's actually a lousy thing to do, if there were accurate pictures.

A buyer is basically blaming the seller for the buyer's own inattention and general change of heart.
post #7245 of 7869
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Originally Posted by smoothie1 View Post

I think that's actually a lousy thing to do, if there were accurate pictures.

A buyer is basically blaming the seller for the buyer's own inattention and general change of heart.

Hold on, hold on. I'm not even close to the stage of using PayPal to resolve a dispute. The seller has a money back guarantee and seems like a fairly decent guy, I'm not overly concerned.

I went back and reviewed the listing. Issue is clear in photos but I missed it at the time - not much of a Marlow expert. Seller's description was "New with defects" but captioned as "store display model, no visible defects". But, not blaming him now that I see the pics and know what to look for.

Leaning towards keeping them, as a more casual shoe (justifiable at the price). But can anyone help with fit? If snug but wearable barefoot, likely to stretch the minimal amount needed to accommodate dress socks?
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