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As well as related to shoe size. For my US8D feet, the variation between 7.5" and 8" leg opening is very noticeable.
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Penny marlows today:

 

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I'll be reaching for these increasingly as our temps keep going up. Also, my pants are linen so I don't mind a little wider leg opening. Psychologically, it makes me feel a little cooler, lol.

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Penny marlows today:
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I'll be reaching for these increasingly as our temps keep going up. Also, my pants are linen so I don't mind a little wider leg opening. Psychologically, it makes me feel a little cooler, lol.
I echo your sentiment sir about the flexibility of the Marlow penny loafers. They've become my go to dress shoes for the summer.
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For me, tapered pants is key. I think bigger wider pants make loafers look old.

 

Several variables need to be aligned: foot size, trouser hem, trouser weight, shoe shape, etc.  I'm an 11/11.5 US - skinny jeans + elongated last = looking like a hockey stick for me.  But put a size 8 guy in cuffed, wide legged tweed pants over a rounded toe and his feet disappear.

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Fun in the sun

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Great pic of your Marlows sir.
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If you gentlemen don't mind, a sizing question for the RL Marlow wingtips and PTB's.  I measure somewhere between 11.5 D and 12 D on the Brannock.  I wear 11.5 D in most shoes, but I'm a very comfortable 11 D on the Alden Barrie Last, an 11 E on the AE Park Ave. and Harrison Last (both somewhat long and narrow lasts), and I'm a 10.5 UK on the Carmina Forest Last.

What size(s) would I be in the Marlow wingtips and PTB's?  Thanks!

 

Ben

 

 

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Barrie last and the last in which the marlow is constructed on is very close to each other. I would say that the Marlow last is a tad tigher but definitely not tight enough to move up in size for most people. In conclusion, most people would take the same size in both the Barrie and the Marlow last.

 

However, if you find that the Barrie fits snug, then you may consider moving up half a size.

 

Since you're an 11 for both the Barrie and the 5-last, I did be surprised if you need an 11.5 for the Marlows.

 

 

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Ben, I'm an 11.5D measured on the brannock, 11D in the Alden barrie, and wear an 11 in the Marlow wingtips, penny's, and ptb's. Don't be afraid to order a couple sizes in the Marlows, you can always send the ones that don't fit back.

I just wanted to follow up on my earlier posts for the benefit of others.  I received a pair of Marlow wingtips yesterday in size 11D.  As you can read above, I was debating the proper size.... probably either an 11D or 11.5D.

The Marlow wingtips in 11D are probably my ideal size, although they are not a perfect fit.  They fit wonderfully for length and in the toe area.  Not too roomy, but my toes are very comfortable.  They also fit nicely in width across the ball of my foot.  The heel also fits rather nicely, although I'm getting a little heel slippage, which is to be expected with a durable, stiff sole.  My problem is in the instep.  I have this problem with my shoes.  My instep is low and so the shoe that fits me in width across the ball of my foot leaves plenty/too much volume at my instep area.  If I try to go to a narrower shoe, the bottom of my foot at the widest spot will be uncomfortable because it's being squeezed.  What usually happens is that I just end up with the vamp nearly or fully closed when I tighten the laces.  That is the case with these.  The vamp over my instep is not too loose to really cause any problems though, so I'm happy with the fit of these shoes.  If I find that it is a problem, I'll just go to using tongue pads to get a snugger fit over the instep.

 

So, with the help of a few members here in the forum, I was able to find what I believe to be my idea size in this shoe...... which is a size 11D, the same size I wear in Alden Barrie Last and a half size to full size down to my Brannock size of somewhere between an 11.5D and a 12D.

Thank you to all that provided me with input on this shoe.  It's absolutely gorgeous.

Ben

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I just wanted to follow up on my earlier posts for the benefit of others.  I received a pair of Marlow wingtips yesterday in size 11D.  As you can read above, I was debating the proper size.... probably either an 11D or 11.5D.


The Marlow wingtips in 11D are probably my ideal size, although they are not a perfect fit.  They fit wonderfully for length and in the toe area.  Not too roomy, but my toes are very comfortable.  They also fit nicely in width across the ball of my foot.  The heel also fits rather nicely, although I'm getting a little heel slippage, which is to be expected with a durable, stiff sole.  My problem is in the instep.  I have this problem with my shoes.  My instep is low and so the shoe that fits me in width across the ball of my foot leaves plenty/too much volume at my instep area.  If I try to go to a narrower shoe, the bottom of my foot at the widest spot will be uncomfortable because it's being squeezed.  What usually happens is that I just end up with the vamp nearly or fully closed when I tighten the laces.  That is the case with these.  The vamp over my instep is not too loose to really cause any problems though, so I'm happy with the fit of these shoes.  If I find that it is a problem, I'll just go to using tongue pads to get a snugger fit over the instep.

So, with the help of a few members here in the forum, I was able to find what I believe to be my idea size in this shoe...... which is a size 11D, the same size I wear in Alden Barrie Last and a half size to full size down to my Brannock size of somewhere between an 11.5D and a 12D.


Thank you to all that provided me with input on this shoe.  It's absolutely gorgeous.


Ben

I too have a low instep. Tongue pads should work just fine to address your issue. Until you try them, you won't know what you are missing. For various shoes I own, the addition of tongue pads has taken the shoes from a good fit to a great fit.
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Anyone have any luck finding shoes on the same last of the marlow wingtip in stores? I really want to try them on to find my size, but it seems to be sold out pretty often. Would appreciate any info! I live in Chicago if anyone has any specific info for my area.

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Anyone have any luck finding shoes on the same last of the marlow wingtip in stores? I really want to try them on to find my size, but it seems to be sold out pretty often. Would appreciate any info! I live in Chicago if anyone has any specific info for my area.

While I can't help with stores, the below site will get you a current list of models made on the 325 last.

http://www.crockettandjones.com/collections/uk/mens
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I just wanted to follow up on my earlier posts for the benefit of others.  I received a pair of Marlow wingtips yesterday in size 11D.  As you can read above, I was debating the proper size.... probably either an 11D or 11.5D.


The Marlow wingtips in 11D are probably my ideal size, although they are not a perfect fit.  They fit wonderfully for length and in the toe area.  Not too roomy, but my toes are very comfortable.  They also fit nicely in width across the ball of my foot.  The heel also fits rather nicely, although I'm getting a little heel slippage, which is to be expected with a durable, stiff sole.  My problem is in the instep.  I have this problem with my shoes.  My instep is low and so the shoe that fits me in width across the ball of my foot leaves plenty/too much volume at my instep area.  If I try to go to a narrower shoe, the bottom of my foot at the widest spot will be uncomfortable because it's being squeezed.  What usually happens is that I just end up with the vamp nearly or fully closed when I tighten the laces.  That is the case with these.  The vamp over my instep is not too loose to really cause any problems though, so I'm happy with the fit of these shoes.  If I find that it is a problem, I'll just go to using tongue pads to get a snugger fit over the instep.

So, with the help of a few members here in the forum, I was able to find what I believe to be my idea size in this shoe...... which is a size 11D, the same size I wear in Alden Barrie Last and a half size to full size down to my Brannock size of somewhere between an 11.5D and a 12D.


Thank you to all that provided me with input on this shoe.  It's absolutely gorgeous.


Ben
Glad that your diggin' the Marlow wingtips Ben. They're like a gateway to nicer shoes, especially shell cordovan. You might want to investigate getting an orthotic arch insert for your shoes. A tongue pad will take up space, but an insert will be better for your feet. Just a suggestion. Now crease those bad boys and post some pics when you get a chance.
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 I live in Chicago if anyone has any specific info for my area.

 

Perhaps Barney's stocks the Coniston in-store?  It's a boot but it's on the 325.

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While I can't help with stores, the below site will get you a current list of models made on the 325 last.

http://www.crockettandjones.com/collections/uk/mens

 

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Perhaps Barney's stocks the Coniston in-store?  It's a boot but it's on the 325.

 

Thanks for the tips guys, I'll probably check Barney's out.

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I just wanted to follow up on my earlier posts for the benefit of others.  I received a pair of Marlow wingtips yesterday in size 11D.  As you can read above, I was debating the proper size.... probably either an 11D or 11.5D.


The Marlow wingtips in 11D are probably my ideal size, although they are not a perfect fit.  They fit wonderfully for length and in the toe area.  Not too roomy, but my toes are very comfortable.  They also fit nicely in width across the ball of my foot.  The heel also fits rather nicely, although I'm getting a little heel slippage, which is to be expected with a durable, stiff sole.  My problem is in the instep.  I have this problem with my shoes.  My instep is low and so the shoe that fits me in width across the ball of my foot leaves plenty/too much volume at my instep area.  If I try to go to a narrower shoe, the bottom of my foot at the widest spot will be uncomfortable because it's being squeezed.  What usually happens is that I just end up with the vamp nearly or fully closed when I tighten the laces.  That is the case with these.  The vamp over my instep is not too loose to really cause any problems though, so I'm happy with the fit of these shoes.  If I find that it is a problem, I'll just go to using tongue pads to get a snugger fit over the instep.

So, with the help of a few members here in the forum, I was able to find what I believe to be my idea size in this shoe...... which is a size 11D, the same size I wear in Alden Barrie Last and a half size to full size down to my Brannock size of somewhere between an 11.5D and a 12D.


Thank you to all that provided me with input on this shoe.  It's absolutely gorgeous.


Ben

I think some of it is your low instep, but a lot of it is the Marlow/Pembroke pattern. Although, the PTB on the 325 is the same. I have a normal to high instep and am on the verge of needing tongue pads. If you pay attention to everyone's pictures, almost all have the facings very close to touching when the shoes are laced up. I love the shoe, but I wish C&J would modify this a bit.
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I think some of it is your low instep, but a lot of it is the Marlow/Pembroke pattern. Although, the PTB on the 325 is the same. I have a normal to high instep and am on the verge of needing tongue pads. If you pay attention to everyone's pictures, almost all have the facings very close to touching when the shoes are laced up. I love the shoe, but I wish C&J would modify this a bit.

I've seen this in a few European lasted wingtip blucher shoes that I've tried or have as well.  My Carmina Fitzgeral wingtip brogues are a blucher style size 10.5 UK on the Forest last and they fit very similar to the RL Marlow wingtips in size 11D, although the Marlows are still a bit looser around the instep.  Same thing with a pair of Tricker's wingtip brogues on the 2298 last (? I think) in size 10.5 UK.  The Tricker's however were too crowded in the toe box and I had to return them.  Like I said, most of my shoes lace up so that the vamp is nearly closed, so I know that my instep is low compared to the rest of the dimensions of my foot...... but I think you are right in that the Marlow/Pembroke pattern allows for more room in the instep.

Ben

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