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Currently trying to decide between the Alden LWB and the RL Marlow cordovans. I don't know much about the construction standards and quality of RLs shoes. Can anyone tell me if they are worth the full price (which in this part of the world is the same as a pair of Alden LWB)?
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Originally Posted by IJReilly View Post

Currently trying to decide between the Alden LWB and the RL Marlow cordovans. I don't know much about the construction standards and quality of RLs shoes. Can anyone tell me if they are worth the full price (which in this part of the world is the same as a pair of Alden LWB)?
VS Adlen LWB .. Marlow by Crockett & Jones all day long .. My humble opinion ...shog[1].gif
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Originally Posted by IJReilly View Post

Currently trying to decide between the Alden LWB and the RL Marlow cordovans. I don't know much about the construction standards and quality of RLs shoes. Can anyone tell me if they are worth the full price (which in this part of the world is the same as a pair of Alden LWB)?
IJReilly, what part of the world do you live in that both shoes are the same price? Both shoes are Goodyear welted so they can easily be resoled, which is a plus because they're not by any means inexpensive. Can you possibly get to try either one on someplace? I have both and they're each really nice shoes.
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IJReilly, what part of the world do you live in that both shoes are the same price? Both shoes are Goodyear welted so they can easily be resoled, which is a plus because they're not by any means inexpensive. Can you possibly get to try either one on someplace? I have both and they're each really nice shoes.

I live in Stockholm. I have tried on both shoes, and they both fit well. I have a collection of Church's, Alden's and Tricker's, so I am familiar with fine footwear.

The reason they are the same price is that Alden's are so ridiculously expensive in Europe (about 900 dollars vs 1000 for the RL Marlows)
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Chipshot, here on the C&J for Ralph Lauren SF thread I would expect nothing less than your best unbiased opinion. :-)
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Depends on which lwb but I would take the Marlow
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C&J is made to a higher standard with less mistakes than Alden. But one isn't better than the other, they both have their strengths:

Alden paints their shell making it easier to care for. Both Alden & C&J use horween but the C&J shell dries out faster. I chuckle thinking of all the times Mac would recommend the Mac method to a C&J owner. That's like steroid Barry Bonds telling Jeff Kent he too can hit 70 home runs; just needs to practice more.
C&J seems to never have any problems with stitching, poor welting, or mismatched shells, at least not at retail prices. Not uncommon for Alden stitching to come undone but that's part of the allure I guess.

I would get one of each: alden (non-cigar) Lwb and C&J wingtip
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I live in Stockholm. I have tried on both shoes, and they both fit well. I have a collection of Church's, Alden's and Tricker's, so I am familiar with fine footwear.

The reason they are the same price is that Alden's are so ridiculously expensive in Europe (about 900 dollars vs 1000 for the RL Marlows)
Stockholm Sweden, that's so cool. I live in Minnesota and my girlfriend is half Swedish, her other half is Finnish so we won't start that kerfuffle here on this forum. I would say the overall quality control on the Marlows is much better. If it's a choice between a #8 Alden LWB and the Marlow short wingtips I'd go Marlow. If you have a chance to get one of Alden's rare shell colors like cigar, whiskey, or Ravello I'd go Alden just because those colors are hard to come by.
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^ that's solid advice bstiff
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^ that's solid advice bstiff
Well I thank you NAMOR.
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Originally Posted by IJReilly View Post

Currently trying to decide between the Alden LWB and the RL Marlow cordovans. I don't know much about the construction standards and quality of RLs shoes. Can anyone tell me if they are worth the full price (which in this part of the world is the same as a pair of Alden LWB)?

I've been eyeing the C&J Marlow in brown shell for a long time. I've come close to purchasing several times but I never do. The reason for this is that I have a pair of Alden LWB in Cigar shell. I know that the SWB and LWB are different but to me both of these shoes are more casual. I never wear my Alden LWB with suits and I think that the C&J would be the same way. There is really just no need for them in my wardrobe expect for me to just say I have them. Now if I could find a nice Balmoral in brown shell from C&J i'd be all over that.
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Currently trying to decide between the Alden LWB and the RL Marlow cordovans. I don't know much about the construction standards and quality of RLs shoes. Can anyone tell me if they are worth the full price (which in this part of the world is the same as a pair of Alden LWB)?

 

I would always try to get anything I could on sale, but if it can't be done then they are worth the regular price. If I had to chose and I'm glad I didn't, I would get the Marlow over the Alden.

 

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IJReilly, you should ask this same question in the Alden thread. It would be unfair if you received just a single biased opinion

make love, not war, buy both
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It would be unfair if you received just a single biased opinion

make love, not war, buy both
totally agree, buy both
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I have both the Marlow and the Alden LWB in cigar, ravello and color 8.  I have personally liked my Aldens more as I place a greater priority on comfort than most.  To me, the Alden LWB is hands down more comfortable.  I have struggled with the marlow for a long while, but recently they have started to break in and wear more comfortably than the previous 10 months.  They look great but I also believe the LWB are equally handsome.  I think I prefer the color of the brown Marlow to the cigar, but if I had to choose my favorite I'd go with Alden's ravello LWB...

 

I am very happy to have both! :nodding:

 

BeSpiff is correct though, if you can acquire the ravello LWB in your size, I would snatch it up immediately.  The Marlow will be available for a while, but I certainly wouldn't buy at retail.  IMO, $850 is a joke.  If you are patient and you search ebay and RL sales you will find it under $600.  I found mine from an RL seller on ebay for $425 bnib about a year ago.  However, I have not seen that seller in recent months.  Good luck IJReilly

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