I have a black, 3 button, single breasted, double vented, MTM Armani with flat front pants, and while it might not be kiton quality, it's definitely a lot nicer than anything by boss. I chose mine over Canali btw, without regard to price. I just liked the fabric/cut more and that was enough for me, even though I was quite aware of the quality of each suit at the time of purchase. The material is also MUCH nicer than anything you'll find on a boss suit. Boss suits all felt like cardboard to me, not to mention they didn't fit well and there's no MTM program. And I don't think the boss suits are as well made as the armani ones either. I like the Boss hugo boss casual stuff, but not the suits. I've worn my suit a lot and it still looks new and doesn't seem to be falling apart on me, nor do I expect it to fall apart on me any time in the near future. There was a post on a forum somewhere about fusing in suits (maybe it was here, I'm not sure). "High quality" fused suits, while certainly not as good as some of the more elite brands, have a bad rep that i don't think is as justified today as it might have been some time ago. There's a stigma attached to fusing in suits that won't go away, even though they've gotten a lot better in general (at the high end anyway). I guess it's also due to the fact that the really low end suits are fused and people can't seem to understand that there are still big quality differences between $300 fused suit and one which sells for substantially more. Zegna are VERY good about maintaining high quality control on ALL of their lines. Zegna is at the forefront of manufacturing in the suit business. Trust me, just cause it's fused, doesn't mean it's a crappy suit. Armani/Zegna or not, they wouldn't sell their suits at anywhere near those prices if they were falling apart on people. And unless you're dealing with people that spend a lot of time looking at suits, I doubt anyone is gonna say "OMG that guy is wearing a FUSED suit, WHAT a LOSER."/snobby_valley_girl-type_accent Chances are, they won't know the difference and you'll look better than 95% of the population wearing an armani suit, even if it's collezioni ;p And it's pretty silly to make a point of saying that you pay for the armani name, cause it seems to me that that's understood buy anyone who's buying heh. You pay for any noteworthy name. Brioni, kiton, Attolini, Knize, Kilgour, etc. Anything worth owning carries a brand premium. Are they all worth their premiums? That's for each person to decide. I think kiton is the worst offender, personally. I really don't think they have *that* much over brioni as to justify the price difference in their suits. Brioni is priced just right, imo. Kiton is too expensive. I'd rather make the trip to savile row or knize or something heh. Then there are kiton shirts.. Do they really justify 200 dollars over the price of borrelli? Hell no. So what, they do an extra 6 hours of hand work on a part of the shirt where it doesn't really matter.. whooptydoo... And lastly, let's not forget that you can probably get a great bespoke suit from bergdorff or any number of other high end stores around the country for a very fair price. This is actually my personal preference and unless I see something which really grabs my attention, it's what I'll do for future suit purchases. I'm actually going to europe towards the end of this year and I think I'm gonna make a detour to Knize to have my overcoat done there and possibly a suit as well ^_^ That said, there are certainly suits which offer better value or higher quality. All in all though, I've been very happy with my armani suit. Plus if you're young and slim chances are it'll fit very well off the rack.