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Originally Posted by JakeLA View Post

My guess is Cockney rhyming slang. Sausage roll = dole = welfare. Do I win a prize, UK members?

Are you 'avin a bubble?
post #62 of 115
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Originally Posted by Hayward View Post

I dunno. You have to do more than change your diet to lose weight.

I respectfully disagree. You are correct that it is not always so simple, but what/how much you eat is by a large margin THE greatest factor in losing or maintaining your weight. You exercise now - how long does it take to burn off, say, 150 calories (or roughly 2 cookies)? This fellow is making POOR decisions with his health.
post #63 of 115
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I respectfully disagree. You are correct that it is not always so simple, but what/how much you eat is by a large margin THE greatest factor in losing or maintaining your weight. You exercise now - how long does it take to burn off, say, 150 calories (or roughly 2 cookies)? This fellow is making POOR decisions with his health.

What, but not really how much. See studies on starvation diets - people put on starvation diets don't lose near as much weight as you might expect, and gain it all back pretty much immediately after the diet ends.
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What, but not really how much. See studies on starvation diets - people put on starvation diets don't lose near as much weight as you might expect, and gain it all back pretty much immediately after the diet ends.

That is because starving oneself really messes with your body. I can only imagine the amount of food Christie is eating to maintain that level of obesity. If he went on a reputable, medically-supervised diet he would probably lose 100 pounds in under a year.
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That is because starving oneself really messes with your body. I can only imagine the amount of food Christie is eating to maintain that level of obesity. If he went on a reputable, medically-supervised diet he would probably lose 100 pounds in under a year.

probably from the level he's starting at, but for less extreme levels of obesity, you can eat less and not lose any weight if you keep your carb intake way up, etc....but this is probably a discussion for a different forum
post #66 of 115
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That is because starving oneself really messes with your body. I can only imagine the amount of food Christie is eating to maintain that level of obesity. If he went on a reputable, medically-supervised diet he would probably lose 100 pounds in under a year.

sorry, you don't know what you are talking about.

I would say that I was probably more obese than Christie is. It took me 4 years to lose 110 pounds, although I did lose about 50 in the first year.

there are a couple of things that you guys aren't thinking about that this guy is a working man, a politician and a leader (as well as a family man, I think) -

1. when you are working really hard, and invovled in a lot of early morning and late night meetings, its a bitch to excersize. I know that everyone always thinks "oh, I'm a full time student and work 6 hours a week on top of that, and I have time to excersize, how much harder can he work" well, some people put everything into their job, and don't see the possiblity to cut back on those hours

2. I am guessing he has business meals a couple of hundred times a year - breakfasts, lunches, dinners, and he isn't in a position to control his food very well, or skip the meals. that is very very hard to work around. now, if you really like food, and you react to stress by eating, and you are sitting at a table full of donuts while working, you either put all your energy into not having a donut, or you put your energy into work, and have a couple of donuts. that is the way it works.

3. when you get to be that size, its hard to start excersizing - I am guessing that if he started to jog tomorrow, he would get inflamations in his ankles and knees and would be off his feet for a week. and, as a politician, its not that easy to show up at the Y and walk in the pool like an old lady, it makes you look bad.


anyway , I'm not making excuses, I'm just saying that most of us don't understand the situation he's in.
post #67 of 115
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It really is never a good idea to make a blanket statement like "you don't know what you are talking about."

My friend Brad was Christie's size and lost 100+ pounds in less than a year on a reasonable diet, combined with exercise. And I am certain that his results are not atypical.

Bill Clinton was a food addict as well, was also a governor and also ran for president. He never got anywhere close to that point.
post #68 of 115
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Originally Posted by globetrotter View Post

you either put all your energy into not having a donut, or you put your energy into work, and have a couple of donuts. that is the way it works.

there are some recent studies to this effect, that willpower is like a muscle that gets tired.
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Originally Posted by Rambo View Post

Let me help you guys out here: As a formerly fat motherfucker I have first hand knowledge of this shit. Its physically impossible for a fat piece of shit to look stylish in clothes. PERIOD. Ain't happenin'. You're fat, and you know it. No amount of tailoring can hide the 20 piece bucket of wings you gobbled down on your way home from the office.

Man, I love wings.
post #70 of 115
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Originally Posted by MrDaniels View Post

It really is never a good idea to make a blanket statement like "you don't know what you are talking about."
My friend Brad was Christie's size and lost 100+ pounds in less than a year on a reasonable diet, combined with exercise. And I am certain that his results are not atypical.
Bill Clinton was a food addict as well, was also a governor and also ran for president. He never got anywhere close to that point.

1. how old was your friend?
2. what was his job?


I find it very hard to believe, frankly.
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

there are some recent studies to this effect, that willpower is like a muscle that gets tired.

I find this is my hardest problem - I sit in on at the very least, 100 business dinners a year. all of them at good resteraunts. and I have to focus and work.

what I do is fill myself up with a fiber and protien shake beforehand, so I am not hungry, but it took me a while to figure that trick out.
post #72 of 115
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Originally Posted by globetrotter View Post

I find this is my hardest problem - I sit in on at the very least, 100 business dinners a year. all of them at good resteraunts. and I have to focus and work.
what I do is fill myself up with a fiber and protien shake beforehand, so I am not hungry, but it took me a while to figure that trick out.

avoid bread. eat meat and vegetables. not too much dessert. should be fine.
post #73 of 115
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

avoid bread. eat meat and vegetables. not too much dessert. should be fine.

thanks, really, this is an idiot answer.


seriously, this is like a bunch of midgets talking about basketball.

seriously, almost everybody here consideres the way they look to be about the most important thing in the world, so its almost impossible for anybody to understand the position of someobody like cristie - then, you add to it the fact that most people here are under 25, and that a lot of you are working in zero stress retail jobs, and its like you are talking about what life on a different planet is like.

I don't mean that as an insult, but I'll say the same thing I said before, I don't think that most of you grasp the situation.
post #74 of 115
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Originally Posted by globetrotter View Post

thanks, really, this is an idiot answer.
seriously, this is like a bunch of midgets talking about basketball.
seriously, almost everybody here consideres the way they look to be about the most important thing in the world, so its almost impossible for anybody to understand the position of someobody like cristie - then, you add to it the fact that most people here are under 25, and that a lot of you are working in zero stress retail jobs, and its like you are talking about what life on a different planet is like.
I don't mean that as an insult, but I'll say the same thing I said before, I don't think that most of you grasp the situation.

umm...ok. i don't consider it an idiot answer and i don't understand why you would. i do not work in a zero stress retail job. i've never been obese, but various times i have been significantly heavier than i would like to be and have done research to figure out how to counteract that. after reading such research, the above is a condensed version of what i've learned (and is not obvious, if that's the reason why you think it's an "idiot answer"...many supposedly reputable sources of information on nutrition will tell you not to eat meat and to eat a lot of whole grains).

Also, you can't really call something an "idiot answer" and then claim later that it's not an insult.
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Originally Posted by globetrotter View Post

1. how old was your friend?
2. what was his job?
I find it very hard to believe, frankly.

Late 20s.


And do you know what his job is?


PASTRY CHEF!!!! No fucking kidding.


Hard to believe? 100 pounds in a year is losing 2 pounds a week (The Mayo Clinic diet is very nutritionally and medically sound and it states that one will loose 1-2 pounds a week). There are people on The Biggest Loser (which admittedly is extreme) that lose 300 pounds in six months. Usually when one is that fat the first 100 comes flying off because they are no longer gorging to the point that it takes to maintain a 400-weight.


I think it is admirable that you lose 110 pounds in four years, but I think you are the one with atypical results if you stuck faithfully to a reputable diet plan. That would average out to a half a pound a week. I know that the last 40 or so can be difficult to get off, but sorry-the first 100 flies off for most people.
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