Criticism of Charles Tyrwhitt's revised >Black label< suit jacket?

Does anyone have experience with the "new" Charles Tyrwhitt Black label suit jacket?

"Based on your valued feedback, our new-shape Black Labels suits and separates are slimmer and sleeker than ever." - Nick C.T. Wheeler

And - in general, any criticism of CT Black Label suit jackets?

http://www.ctshirts.co.uk/men's-suits/view-all?q=gbpdefault|||||||2166,||||||||

That's encouraging! I am on the threshold of ordering one of these CTs. Too bad I didn't get any other posts besides yours, but I'm grateful for yours - thanks very much!

Does that mean that the buttons can easily fall off? I have that problem with my New & Lingwood double breasted blazer as well, but I must admit I'm brutal in my treatment of it. What is the problem with quality of buttons? From where can you acquire better buttons for replacement?
Fit is a severe problem.

PS: That photograph you use is incredible! it looks like Magreb maybe Egypt and the animal is a donkey?

A very stimulating post for which I am quite thankful. Very intreresting to know the fit has slim sleeves and waist suppression. I don't know what you mean: "like my suits that have already been tailored" - do you mean made to Measure or even Bespoke? The navy is stretch isn't it? I imagine that stretch is always of value. Blue pin dot must be an interesting structure, and I appreciate knowing you liked both. Too bad you didn't see the dogstooth, because i would like to know what you think of that, too.

Do you wear 38S?

Did you try on 38R or also 38S?

That is very encouraging! Thanks a lot!

PS: You didn't observe anything you didn't like? (Besides the too long sleeves.)

Wow, reading your posts is intoxicating in a positive sense! Your physical dimensions are approximately my own, too! I must ask that my shirts be altered to the sleeve length of 31". Since I read that gauntlet buttons were initially part of the Jermyn Street archetypal shirt, i regret very much that I didn't have these made on every shirt - the gap is ungly! I must contradict Coles' when the claim is made we design our gauntlets so that there is no ugly gap! And Charles Tyrwhitt doesn't offer the addition of gauntlet buttons! You didn't state your shirt and suit jacket sleeve lengths? Sorry about my difficulty comprehending your faultless English - my desire to know everything possible about something I invest myself in makes me get some people nervous because I ask many questions. I'm happy you liked that pin dot pattern, and I wrote Charles Tyrwhitt yesterday to point out the three cloth samples - dogstooth, navy stretch and blue pin dot haven't arrived.

It's interesting to know you employ a tailor to alter your suit jackets off the r....? to increase waist suppression. (Suppression sounds unfree).
I abhor the suit contours to be seen in Central Europe - maybe still in the US - so it's no surprise you say you visited a CT shop in London because I believe waist suppression is an important feature of the English cut. Everything you write must make the other poster K. above pleased in view of what he wrote about his old Black Label. On the Charles Tyrwhitt website page where Black label suit jackets are advertised is an outline of the suit jacket in the revised conception - unfortunately, the old outline is not offered as a means of comparison for better comprehension of the alleged improvement.
Edited by Naive, Jr. - 10/6/11 at 7:32am

I appreciate both of your posts about evaluation of those buttons used on the earlier version of the Charles Tyrwhitt Black Label suit jacket. This is indeed reason for concern. If the buttonhole is sloppily sewn, then how can such miscarriage be corrected? Sounds like a negative mess not easily repaired? The problem of button itself seems to be less grave. In this case of positive material, there appears a controversy about the nature of the button material - advertised as "natural corozo buttons" - this is a question of theoretical research and observation of specimens. Perhaps the buttons in question attached to the earlier Black Label were not made of "natural corozo" marerial? Perhaps there is a misunderstanding by one party who would like to revise his judgment on the issue and clarify the situation so I can know what to expect when I get the dogstooth or dogtooth suit jacket I ordered a few minutes ago? I wrote the lady of partial Scot origin who serves as chat consultant at the Charles Tyrwhitt website for suit jackets about this thread, and how the posters have been so helpful to share their valuable experience and knowledge, and she replied she intends to read what you wrote. I contacted her again after getting inspired by you posters - I asked her to inform her superiors at the Charles Tyrwhitt design room to consider what I believe to be superior to mere measurements - a picture to illustrate the outline of the older model of the Black label to facilitate better comprehension of what Nick Wheeler claims to be the result of customer feedback: "slimmer and slanker" design - so then one can easily see by comparison of the new outline "Tailored Fit" already provided the diferences!

PS: I'm the opposite of a nerd or whatever those talented computer experts are called so I don't know how and can't do anything about that photograph of leather boots which accompanies my name whenever I post. I have nothing to do with those boots, and i would never wear them. I recommend anybody who wants super boots to phone Colin Austin at New & Lingwood - I'm so enthused I tend to want to keep it secret for myself in fear I won't be able to buy more! There was a post somewhere complaining the double souls of the jodhpur photographed don't correspond to the real shoe - in any case, otherwise the boot is far better than the Jodhpur interpretations I bought offered by CT and S&H.
Edited by Naive, Jr. - 10/6/11 at 10:31am

Thanks very much for taking the trouble to share your knowledge.
Let us assume we discover for whatever reason the buttons on our new suit jacket are less than ideal - what would you recommend as possible substitute and where could one order these?
In the case of a suit jacket described as black and grey dogstooth, which colours do you consider best for buttons?