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post #16 of 20
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Originally Posted by terminat
Like Vanity says, simply go to the gym 2-4 times a week and push yourself to the limit - and eat loads of protein. Excessive protein is not dangerous for you, as long as you have below like 800g a day or something stupid/have severe kidney problems.
Whilst most bodybuilding people agree on eating 1g per pound of bodyweight, sometimes I only manage to do about 0.7g per pound in a day. Since a protein shake contains about 30g of protein, with just one or two of them its very easy to reach your quota. Also, foods like tuna are invaluable - a 120g can contains 40g of protein and loads of healthy fats. If you work out and you find you're sore the next day, it means your muscles are screaming out for more protein, without which the gym is absolutely useless! (Btw, I wouldn't eat more than 2g per pound, else your body might store it as fat.)

Also, if you're impatient and want quick results, I'd take creatine before/after exercise along with your shakes - by far the most popular is BSN's No Explode (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/bsn/xplode.html) which I've used myself, and it makes you go considerably further in the gym, think its vegetarian compliant but not sure though.

I've been consuming 100g+ for nearly every day over the last 3 months, and have done intensive free weights at the gym 2-4 times a week - and I've lost fat and gained an entire stone of lean muscle



Yeh, whey protein shakes are ones that release really fast into your bloodstream (i.e. right before/after exercise) whilst casein (milk protein) shakes are released during a 2-8 hour period, which means they're good for having just before bed - allowing your muscles optimum growth in the night.
Don't worry too much about that though - the key is getting protein, whatever type it is. Hope this helps

Thank everyone for their help. For now, can I mix the whey with water in the daytime and milk in the evening for the slow release? Or do I need to buy the casein?

The calorie calculator link has a lot of info. Thanks for the link.
post #17 of 20
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Originally Posted by vanity
I used to be REALLY big into bodybuilding and considered entering some contests but then college came along and drugs/women were more fun. But I was training with competitive bodybuilders and reading a lot of material non-stop.

People make gaining weight and muscle out to be this uber-science. "You have to have this ratio of this, and that ratio of that, and don't workout if you're sore...and supersets and 7s and blah blah blah"

The real secret? Eat a shitload of protein and destroy your body at the gym. The 250lb behemoths don't prance into the gym wondering if they should work chest again b/c it's still sore from last time. They go in there and bash out 30+sets of chest. It could take up to 2 hours. Even if it hurts they'll do it.

The articles in Flex and Muslce & Fitness by those professional bodybuilders are NOT what they use to get that size. It's just like those workout machines that say "For only 20 minutes a day you can look like this". It's bullshit filler to sell a product. Those guys are ripped b/c they punish themselves harder than anyone else for a longer period of time. If it was easy like the articles say, everyone would be doing it.

In addition, they arent the brightest people on Earth. Aroudn competition time they'll get a nutritionist but for the most part it's nothing but EAT EAT EAT. All you gotta do is train HARD consistently and EAT.

/end rant.
Really not the best advice for this guy. Unless you're on the spray (which many of the 250lb. behemoths are), working out like this will only put you into a catabolic state. (Well, there's always the occasional freak of nature, but he's a rarity) I see people overtraining every single day, wondering why they're making zero progress. I do agree with the protein intake. I recommend eating as much as one comfortably can, lots of protein, fat, carbs and all. One important factor I didn't see mentioned is the age of the OP. Obviously, one's workouts must be coordinated with their age. If you want to put on size, in addition to eating, work out large muscle groups, four times a week, limiting workouts to an hour or so. Focus on heavy leg workouts, primarily. Lots of squats, deadlifts, leg presses. Do chest and back, too. Don't worry much about shoulders and biceps at this stage. Plenty of time for fine tuning once you gain some size. Rest and diet are as important as the actual workouts themselves. Definitely talk to guys at the gym and find out what they're doing!
post #18 of 20
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Originally Posted by Stylin-1
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this guy knows what he's talking about. Looking back, the reason i could never gain significant weight after 2 years of working out was that I was overtraining. I was in the gym 4 times a week, but neglecting my diet and rest.

Just concentrate on the big core lifts - squat, deadlift, row, bench press, military press is pretty much all you need to pack on the pounds.
post #19 of 20
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this guy knows what he's talking about. Looking back, the reason i could never gain significant weight after 2 years of working out was that I was overtraining. I was in the gym 4 times a week, but neglecting my diet and rest.

Sure, if you train 7 days a week really heavy and have a crap diet, there is a possibility of overtraining - but just eat enough protein, get enough sleep, and don't do an intense workout every single day and you'll be completely fine.

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For now, can I mix the whey with water in the daytime and milk in the evening for the slow release? Or do I need to buy the casein?

Yep you can - casein kinda has the tar-like property of basically taking a while to be digested, and making all other proteins (including whey) be slowly absorbed in your stomach too. So, with significant quantities of casein (i.e. a shake) most of the protein you consume at the same time will be slow-absorbed.

Hope this helps
post #20 of 20
I used to be 6'0 and weigh 120 lbs...then one summer i started working out every other day and got to 150 lbs...most of this was fat I think, but there was definitely a lot of muscle under there as well....I got lazy, stopped working out and got sick, lost all my fat and weigh 135.....I fluctuate around 145 nowadays, but I need to get back to the gym.... Make sure you don't neglect drinking enough water, and definitely get enough rest!
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