To me, Carmina is not a flavour, but a reality that I can compare to the two pairs of EG, 1 pair of Lobb MTO, 2 of Crockett & Jones mainline, 1 of Vass (having sold another one) etc that I own.
Construction and skins are very good on the Carminas, and have nothing to fear in comparison with EG for instance. And in Paris, a pair of EG cost 800 euros, vs 370 euros for Carmina.
More, on the Carmina's Simpson last, the form is quite close to those that can be observed on bespoke shoes.
Of course, personnal tastes are another thing.
And regarding Vass and the quality, permit me to show you my last pair of Vass in the state I received them :