AdamWill
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so there's something I've been wondering - like many others I came across this thread and read virtually the whole thing, and then I took a bunch of fit pictures of my own to compare. Not sure I'm going to post any, but one thing I noticed is that at least for me, if I take 20 sets of fit pics of the same suit, I'll get 20 different results. Like some of them look like the worst thing in this thread (well maybe not the absolute worst, that double-breaster back somewhere was a bit of a horror, but hey), some of them look damn good.
And another thing I notice is that going through the thread a lot of the critiques are 'you have a drop shoulder' and 'you have an erect posture'. Well, in some of my pictures I look like I have a gigantic drop shoulder, because I just wasn't _standing straight_. And sometimes I wind up posing - erect posture - even though I try not to.
So I'm wondering, master tailors: are you guys able to eyeball these pictures and spot when someone's standing 'artificially', and adjust your critique for that? Or is it possible that some of the stuff in this thread might be compromised because someone is standing in a really unnatural way?
If I stand up straight and hang my arms straight down my sides, my pictures come out terrible. Which worried me. And then I realized that naturally I have awful gorilla posture (no offence to any sartorially-inclined gorillas who have found their way here), I slouch forward and hang my arms in front of me, and if I stand like that, the pictures look way better. So I think my tailor perfectly correctly noticed I have awful posture and cut for it. Which is kinda what they're supposed to do, and whenever you go to the tailor they spend several minutes just getting happy with how you're standing. I just wondered whether that might be factor in some of the critiques here. Be v. interested to hear the answer. Anyhoo, back to lurking...
edit: OK, since someone went to the trouble to PM and ask, here's some pictures, which kinda illustrate what I mean.
So, notes: the shirt I'm wearing in these pictures has shrunk somewhat; the cuff length on all my other shirts is correct, they show below the jackets. No shoes in these as I was focusing on the cut of the jackets at this time (I deleted most of the other pictures). Over-exposed to show detail, though it's hard to over-expose a tux sufficiently.
So these jackets were cut by the same tailor to the precise same pattern - but the back pictures look pretty different, to me. The tux looks like it's wider - too wide - at the blades, but after measuring and eyeballing by someone else, it isn't: I think the difference in the pictures is the result of how I'm holding my arms. In both of the pictures I'm holding my arms straighter than I really do naturally, so the sleeves don't hang perfectly, and I think it also results in the slight bunches at the armpits; if I hold my arms further to the front, the sleeves hang better and those bunches go away. I think holding my arms straighter also forces my shoulders back so I don't hunch as much as I naturally do (I know I'm already pretty hunched in the pictures - believe me, my posture's appalling). It also looks (to me anyway) like my right shoulder is lower in the grey pic, and my _left_ shoulder is lower in the tux pic. Anyway, I thought it was kinda interesting. Has anyone else tried taking multiple pictures and noticed this?
And another thing I notice is that going through the thread a lot of the critiques are 'you have a drop shoulder' and 'you have an erect posture'. Well, in some of my pictures I look like I have a gigantic drop shoulder, because I just wasn't _standing straight_. And sometimes I wind up posing - erect posture - even though I try not to.
So I'm wondering, master tailors: are you guys able to eyeball these pictures and spot when someone's standing 'artificially', and adjust your critique for that? Or is it possible that some of the stuff in this thread might be compromised because someone is standing in a really unnatural way?
If I stand up straight and hang my arms straight down my sides, my pictures come out terrible. Which worried me. And then I realized that naturally I have awful gorilla posture (no offence to any sartorially-inclined gorillas who have found their way here), I slouch forward and hang my arms in front of me, and if I stand like that, the pictures look way better. So I think my tailor perfectly correctly noticed I have awful posture and cut for it. Which is kinda what they're supposed to do, and whenever you go to the tailor they spend several minutes just getting happy with how you're standing. I just wondered whether that might be factor in some of the critiques here. Be v. interested to hear the answer. Anyhoo, back to lurking...
edit: OK, since someone went to the trouble to PM and ask, here's some pictures, which kinda illustrate what I mean.
So, notes: the shirt I'm wearing in these pictures has shrunk somewhat; the cuff length on all my other shirts is correct, they show below the jackets. No shoes in these as I was focusing on the cut of the jackets at this time (I deleted most of the other pictures). Over-exposed to show detail, though it's hard to over-expose a tux sufficiently.
So these jackets were cut by the same tailor to the precise same pattern - but the back pictures look pretty different, to me. The tux looks like it's wider - too wide - at the blades, but after measuring and eyeballing by someone else, it isn't: I think the difference in the pictures is the result of how I'm holding my arms. In both of the pictures I'm holding my arms straighter than I really do naturally, so the sleeves don't hang perfectly, and I think it also results in the slight bunches at the armpits; if I hold my arms further to the front, the sleeves hang better and those bunches go away. I think holding my arms straighter also forces my shoulders back so I don't hunch as much as I naturally do (I know I'm already pretty hunched in the pictures - believe me, my posture's appalling). It also looks (to me anyway) like my right shoulder is lower in the grey pic, and my _left_ shoulder is lower in the tux pic. Anyway, I thought it was kinda interesting. Has anyone else tried taking multiple pictures and noticed this?
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