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Why is sizing so wrong? True size vs brand size

post #1 of 14
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Today I went to my tailor for a bespoke Prince of Wales suit and I was shocked to find that I have a 40' chest and a 37' waist.

 

All of my trousers are 34', my belts are 36' and my informal shirts (Polo RL, Lacoste, Nautica) are size Small (for 34-36' chests). And no, I don't wear ill-fitting clothing, it all fits very nicely (some shirts being even too loose on the back). What the hell is going on with the sizing parameters of the clothing industry?

post #2 of 14
Measure your pants... I think you'll find that he measured your waist/where you wear your pants incorrectly.
post #3 of 14
Unless you have a completely flat stomach, your measurement above where you normally wear your pants could be larger. He could be measuring your waist in the wrong area. You can purchase a measuring tape and see for yourself.
post #4 of 14
Mate size for a suit and size for shirts are all different. And many tailors measure a little bigger. So in case if you gain weight you can still wear them. PRL and Lacoste their sizing are spot on. And PRL , Lacoste their F/S shirts S is 36-38. Not 34-36.
post #5 of 14
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Originally Posted by Melanzana View Post





The sizing on the Lacoste is a lot tighter than RL. A Lacoste size 4 which is what those skinny models on their site are wearing will fit a man with a 40" chest (the shirt itself is larger depending on the cut) The size 5 will fit a man with a 41.5" chest and the 6 a man with a 42-43" chest. As you can see there's only a 1.5" difference in sizing between sizes (there are a few exceptions in the very small or large where it's 3")

RL and many other makers use a 4" spread so you won't get a fit as with the Lacoste unless you just happen to match a certain size.S may be a 36", M a 40 and large a 44  etc

btw, your waist is 2" above the navel

 


Lacoste and PRL have few different cuts on their f/s shirts. Ok these are on their dress shirts not on their polo shirts.

PRL- classic, custom and slim (s,m,l,xl…)
Lacoste- classic, slim and lacoste live(super slim) – Sizing starts at (38,39,40…….)
Lacoste don’t use s,m or l on their dress shirts. ( or maybe just in Australian stocks)

PRL slim fit shirt (S size) is a little bit bigger than the lacoste live 38 and a little slimmer than lacoste slim fit 38 shirts.
But the shoulder is same on all the three shirts. I own many of them shirts form both brands and can upload picture to prove this.
Being 38 chest and 28 waist I cant wear PRL classic or custom or Lacoste classic shirts. So don’t know about fitting on them.
post #6 of 14
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Originally Posted by Zoren View Post

I was shocked to find that I have a 40' chest and a 37' waist.


A 40-foot chest and a 37-foot waist are indeed astounding. Are you green and do you sell vegetables?
post #7 of 14

maybe you eat too much and get fat...  lol

post #8 of 14
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post #9 of 14
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Originally Posted by Zoren View Post

All of my trousers are 34', my belts are 36' and my informal shirts (Polo RL, Lacoste, Nautica) are size Small (for 34-36' chests). And no, I don't wear ill-fitting clothing, it all fits very nicely (some shirts being even too loose on the back). What the hell is going on with the sizing parameters of the clothing industry?


Vanity sizing. Google it.
post #10 of 14
Not sure this is what's going on here, but frequently makers will size for an idealized measure of the natural waist even though the trouser style is worn lower down on the waist, even on the hips.
post #11 of 14
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Originally Posted by Erablian View Post

A 40-foot chest and a 37-foot waist are indeed astounding. Are you green and do you sell vegetables?

Oh that is nothing, thanks to body building, my chest measurement is 46 miles.
post #12 of 14
I'm sure sizing varies by country. In the UK i'm good most of the time with L or XL, in China it has to be XXXL, even then things can still be too tight or short.
post #13 of 14
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Originally Posted by MikeDT View Post

I'm sure sizing varies by country. In the UK i'm good most of the time with L or XL, in China it has to be XXXL, even then things can still be too tight or short.

Yes but the UK is the second home of vanity sizing.

There is a new EU sizing system but I wonder if it'll just make things even more complicated. I've got things with I swear five sizes on them.
post #14 of 14

Vanity sizing is a fact of life. What bugs me far more than vanity sizing is sizing inconsistency within a brand.

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